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TL;DR: Man with too much time on his hands goes deep down the rabbit hole on a concept this sub already didn’t seem that enthusiastic about. If you really want to skip ahead, CTRL+F “verdict” and it’ll get you there. Two days ago, u/MrPhillyj2wns made a post asking whether USL should launch a D1 league in order to compete in Concacaf. From the top voted replies, it appears this made a lot of people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move. But I’ve been at home for eight weeks and I am terribly, terribly bored. So, I present to you this overview of what the USL pyramid might look like if Jake Edwards got a head of steam and attempted to establish a USSF-sanctioned first division. This is by no means an endorsement of such a proposal or even a suggestion that USL SHOULD do such a thing. It is merely an examination of whether they COULD. Welcome to the Thunderdome USL Premiership First, there are some base-level assumptions we must make in this exercise, because it makes me feel more scientific and not like a guy who wrote this on Sunday while watching the Belarusian Premier League (Go BATE Borisov!).
All D1 teams must comply with known USSF requirements for D1 leagues (more on that later).
MLS, not liking this move, will immediately remove all directly-owned affiliate clubs from the USL structure (this does not include hybrid ownerships, like San Antonio FC – NYCFC). This removes all MLS2 teams but will not affect Colorado Springs, Reno, RGVFC and San Antonio.
The USL will attempt to maintain both the USL Championship and USL League One, with an eventual mind toward creating the pro/rel paradise that is promised in Relegations 3:16.
All of my research regarding facility size and ownership net worth is correct – this is probably the biggest leap of faith we have to make, since googling “NAME net worth” and “CITY richest people” doesn’t seem guaranteed to return accurate results.
The most a club can increase its available seating capacity to meet D1 requirements in a current stadium is no more than 1,500 seats (10% of the required 15,000). If they need to add more, they’ll need a new facility.
Let’s pretend that people are VERY willing to sell. It’s commonly acknowledged that the USL is a more financially feasible route to owning a soccer club than in MLS (c.f. MLS-Charlotte’s reported $325 million expansion fee) and the USSF has some very strict requirements for D1 sanctioning. It becomes pretty apparent when googling a lot of team’s owners that this requirement isn’t met, so let’s assume everyone that can’t sells to people who meet the requirements.
(Known) USSF D1 league requirements: - League must have 12 teams to apply and 14 teams by year three - Majority owner must have a net worth of $40 million, and the ownership group must have a total net worth of $70 million. The value of an owned stadium is not considered when calculating this value. - Must have teams located in the Eastern, Central and Pacific time zones - 75% of league’s teams must be based in markets with at a metro population of at least 1 million people. - All league stadiums must have a capacity of at least 15,000 The ideal club candidate for the USL Premiership will meet the population and capacity requirements in its current ground, which will have a grass playing surface. Of the USL Championship’s 27 independent/hybrid affiliate clubs, I did not find one club that meets all these criteria as they currently stand. Regarding turf fields, the USSF does not have a formal policy regarding the ideal playing surface but it is generally acknowledged that grass is superior to turf. 6 of 26 MLS stadiums utilize turf, or roughly 23% of stadiums. We’ll hold a similar restriction for our top flight, so 2-3 of our top flight clubs can have turf fields. Seem fair? Capacity is going to be the biggest issue, since the disparity between current requirements for the second-tier (5,000) and the first tier (15,000) is a pretty massive gap. Nice club you have there, triple your capacity and you’re onto something. As a result, I have taken the liberty of relocating certain (read: nearly all) clubs to new grounds, trying my utmost to keep those clubs in their current markets and –importantly--, ensure they play on grass surfaces. So, let’s do a case-by-case evaluation and see if we can put together 12-14 teams that meet the potential requirements, because what else do you have to do? For each club’s breakdown, anything that represents a chance from what is currently true will be underlined. Candidate: Birmingham Legion FC Location (Metro population): Birmingham, Ala. (1,151,801) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Legion Field (FieldTurf, 71,594) Potential owner: Stephens Family (reported net worth $4 billion) Notes: Birmingham has a pretty strong candidacy. Having ditched the 5,000-seater BBVA Field for Legion Field, which sits 2.4 miles away, they’ve tapped into the city’s soccer history. Legion Field hosted portions of both the men’s and women’s tournaments at the 1996 Olympics, including a 3-1 U.S. loss to Argentina that saw 83,183 pack the house. The Harbert family seemed like strong ownership contenders, but since the death of matriarch Marguerite Harbert in 2015, it’s unclear where the wealth in the family is concentrated, so the Stephens seem like a better candidate. The only real knock that I can think of is that we really want to avoid having clubs play on turf, so I’d say they’re on the bubble of our platonic ideal USL Prem. Candidate: Charleston Battery Location (Metro population): Charleston, S.C. (713,000) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Johnson Hagood Stadium (Grass, ~14,700) Potential owner: Anita Zucker (reported net worth $3 billion) Notes: Charleston’s candidacy isn’t looking great. Already disadvantaged due to its undersized metro population, a move across the Cooper River to Johnson Hagood Stadium is cutting it close in terms of capacity. The stadium, home to The Citadel’s football team, used to seat 21,000, before 9,300 seats on the eastern grandstand were torn down in 2017 to deal with lead paint that had been used in their construction. Renovation plans include adding 3,000 seats back in, which could hit 15,000 if they bumped it to 3,300, but throw in a required sale by HCFC, LLC (led by content-creation platform founder Rob Salvatore) to chemical magnate Anita Zucker, and you’ll see there’s a lot of ifs and ands in this proposal. Candidate: Charlotte Independence Location (Metro population): Charlotte, N.C. (2,569, 213) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Jerry Richardson Stadium (Turf, 15,314) Potential owner: James Goodnight (reported net worth $9.1 billion) Notes: Charlotte ticks a lot of the boxes. A move from the Sportsplex at Matthews to UNC-Charlotte’s Jerry Richardson stadium meets capacity requirements, but puts them on to the dreaded turf. Regrettably, nearby American Legion Memorial Stadium only seats 10,500, despite a grass playing surface. With a sizeable metro population (sixth-largest in the USL Championship) and a possible owner in software billionaire James Goodnight, you’ve got some options here. The biggest problem likely lies in direct competition for market share against a much better-funded MLS Charlotte side due to join the league in 2021. Candidate: Hartford Athletic Location (Metro population): Hartford, Conn. (1,214,295) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Pratt & Whitney Stadium (Grass, 38,066) Potential owner: Ray Dalio (reported net worth $18.4 billion) Notes: Okay, I cheated a bit here, having to relocate Hartford to Pratt & Whitney Stadium, which is technically in East Hartford, Conn. I don’t know enough about the area to know if there’s some kind of massive beef between the two cities, but the club has history there, having played seven games in 2019 while Dillon Stadium underwent renovations. If the group of local businessmen that currently own the club manage to attract Dalio to the table, we’re on to something. Candidate: Indy Eleven Location (Metro population): Indianapolis, Ind. (2,048,703) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lucas Oil Stadium (Turf, 62,421) Potential owner: Jim Irsay (reported net worth of $3 billion) Notes: Indy Eleven are a club that are SO CLOSE to being an ideal candidate – if it weren’t for Lucas Oil Stadium’s turf playing surface. Still, there’s a lot to like in this bid. I’m not going to lie, I have no idea what current owner and founder Ersal Ozdemir is worth, but it seems like there might be cause for concern. A sale to Irsay, who also owns the NFL Indianapolis (nee Baltimore) Colts, seems likely to keep the franchise there, rather than make a half-mile move to 14,230 capacity Victory Field where the AAA Indianapolis Indians play and expand from there. Candidate: Louisville City FC Location (Metro population): Louisville, Ky. (1,297,310) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Lynn Family Stadium (Grass, 14,000, possibly expandable to 20,000) Potential owner: Wayne Hughes (reported net worth $2.8 billion) Notes: I’m stretching things a bit here. Lynn Family stadium is currently listed as having 11,700 capacity that’s expandable to 14,000, but they’ve said that the ground could hold as many as 20,000 with additional construction, which might be enough to grant them a temporary waiver from USSF. If the stadium is a no-go, then there’s always Cardinal Stadium, home to the University of Louisville’s football team, which seats 65,000 but is turf. Either way, it seems like a sale to someone like Public Storage founder Wayne Hughes will be necessary to ensure the club has enough capital. Candidate: Memphis 901 FC Location (Metro population): Memphis, Tenn. (1,348,260) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Liberty Bowl Stadium (Turf, 58,325) Potential owner: Fred Smith (reported net worth $3 billion) Notes: Unfortunately for Memphis, AutoZone Park’s 10,000 seats won’t cut it at the D1 level. With its urban location, it would likely prove tough to renovate, as well. Liberty Bowl Stadium more than meets the need, but will involve the use of the dreaded turf. As far as an owner goes, FedEx founder Fred Smith seems like a good local option. Candidate: Miami FC, “The” Location (Metro population): Miami, Fla. (6,158,824) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Riccardo Silva Stadium (FieldTurf, 20,000) Potential owner: Riccardo Silva (reported net worth $1 billion) Notes: Well, well, well, Silva might get his wish for top-flight soccer, after all. He’s got the money, he’s got the metro, and his ground has the capacity. There is the nagging issue of the turf, though. Hard Rock Stadium might present a solution, including a capacity of 64,767 and a grass playing surface. It is worth noting, however, that this is the first profile where I didn’t have to find a new potential owner for a club. Candidate: North Carolina FC Location (Metro population): Durham, N.C. (1,214,516 in The Triangle) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Carter-Finley Stadium (Grass/Turf, 57,583) Potential owner: Steve Malik (precise net worth unknown) / Dennis Gillings (reported net worth of $1.7 billion) Notes: We have our first “relocation” in North Carolina FC, who were forced to trade Cary’s 10,000-seat WakeMed Soccer Park for Carter-Finley Stadium in Durham, home of the NC State Wolfpack and 57,583 of their closest friends. The move is a whopping 3.1 miles, thanks to the close-knit hub that exists between Cary, Durham and Raleigh. Carter-Finley might be my favorite of the stadium moves in this exercise. The field is grass, but the sidelines are artificial turf. Weird, right? Either way, it was good enough for Juventus to play a friendly against Chivas de Guadalajara there in 2011. Maybe the move would be pushed for by new owner and medical magnate Dennis Gillings, whose British roots might inspire him to get involved in the Beautiful Game. Straight up, though, I couldn’t find a net worth for current owner Steve Malik, though he did sell his company MedFusion for $91 million in 2010, then bought it back for an undisclosed amount and sold it again for $43 million last November. I don’t know if Malik has the juice to meet D1 requirements, but I suspect he’s close. Candidate: Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Location (Metro population): Pittsburgh, Penn. (2,362,453) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Heinz Field (Grass, 64,450) Potential owner: Henry Hillman (reported net worth $2.5 billion) Notes: I don’t know a ton about the Riverhounds, but this move in particular feels like depriving a pretty blue-collar club from its roots. Highmark Stadium is a no-go from a seating perspective, but the Steelers’ home stadium at Heinz Field would more than meet the requirements and have a grass surface that was large enough to be sanctioned for a FIFA friendly between the U.S. WNT and Costa Rica in 2015. As for an owner, Tuffy Shallenberger (first ballot owner name HOF) doesn’t seem to fit the USSF bill, but legendary Pittsburgh industrialist Henry Hillman might. I’m sure you’re asking, why not the Rooney Family, if they’ll play at Heinz Field? I’ll tell you: I honestly can’t seem to pin down a value for the family. The Steelers are valued at a little over a billion and rumors persist that Dan Rooney is worth $500 million, but I’m not sure. I guess the Rooneys would work too, but it’s a definite departure from an owner in Shallenberger who was described by one journalist as a guy who “wears boots, jeans, a sweater and a trucker hat.” Candidate: Saint Louis FC Location (Metro population): St. Louis, Mo. (2,807,338) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Busch Stadium (Grass, 45,494) Potential owner: William DeWitt Jr. (reported net worth $4 billion) Notes: Saint Louis has some weirdness in making the jump to D1. Current CEO Jim Kavanaugh is an owner of the MLS side that will begin play in 2022. The club’s current ground at West Community Stadium isn’t big enough, but perhaps a timely sale to Cardinals owner William DeWitt Jr. could see the club playing games at Busch Stadium, which has a well established history of hosting other sports like hockey, college football and soccer (most recently a U.S. WNT friendly against New Zealand in 2019). The competition with another MLS franchise wouldn’t be ideal, like Charlotte, but with a big enough population and cross marketing from the Cardinals, maybe there’s a winner here. Wacko idea: If Busch doesn’t pan out, send them to The Dome. Sure, it’s a 60k turf closed-in stadium, but we can go for that retro NASL feel and pay homage to our nation’s soccer history. Candidate: Tampa Bay Rowdies Location (Metro population): Tampa, Fla. (3,068,511) Time zone: Eastern Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Raymond James Stadium (Grass, 65,518) Potential owner: Edward DeBartolo Jr. (reported net worth $3 billion) Notes: This one makes me sad. Despite having never been there, I see Al Lang Stadium as an iconic part of the Rowdies experience. Current owner Bill Edwards proposed an expansion to 18,000 seats in 2016, but the move seems to have stalled out. Frustrated with the city’s lack of action, Edwards sells to one-time San Francisco 49ers owner Edward DeBartolo Jr., who uses his old NFL connections to secure a cushy lease at the home of the Buccaneers in Ray Jay, the site of a 3-1 thrashing of Antigua and Barbuda during the United States’ 2014 World Cup Qualifying campaign. Breather. Hey, we finished the Eastern Conference teams. Why are you still reading this? Why am I still writing it? Time is a meaningless construct in 2020 my friends, we are adrift in the void, fueled only by brief flashes of what once was and what may yet still be. Candidate: Austin Bold FC Location (Metro population): Austin, Texas (2,168,316) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 95,594) Potential owner: Michael Dell (reported net worth of $32.3 billion) Notes: Anthony Precourt’s Austin FC has some unexpected competition and it comes in the form of tech magnate Michael Dell. Dell, were he to buy the club, would be one of the richest owners on our list and could flash his cash in the new first division. Would he have enough to convince Darrel K Royal – Texas Memorial Stadium (I’m not kidding, that’s its actual name) to go back to a grass surface, like it did from ’96-’08? That’s between Dell and nearly 100,000 UT football fans, but everything can be had for the right price. Candidate: Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC Location (Metro population): Colorado Springs, Colo. (738,939) Time zone: Mountain Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Falcon Stadium (FieldTurf, 46,692) Potential owner: Charles Ergen (reported net worth $10.8 billion) Notes: Welcome to Colorado Springs. We have hurdles. For the first time in 12 candidates, we’re back below the desired 1 million metro population mark. Colorado Springs actually plans to build a $35 million, 8,000 seat venue downtown that will be perfect for soccer, but in our timeline that’s 7,000 seats short. Enter Falcon Stadium, home of the Air Force Academy Falcons football team. Seems perfect except for the turf, right? Well, the tricky thing is that Falcon Stadium is technically on an active military base and is (I believe) government property. Challenges to getting in and out of the ground aside, the military tends to have a pretty grim view of government property being used by for-profit enterprises. Maybe Charles Ergen, founder and chairman of Dish Network, would be able to grease the right wheels, but you can go ahead and throw this into the “doubtful” category. It’s a shame, too. 6,035 feet of elevation is one hell of a home-field advantage. Candidate: El Paso Locomotive FC Location: El Paso, Texas Time zone: Mountain Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Sun Bowl (FieldTurf, 51,500) Potential owner: Paul Foster (reported net worth $1.7 billion) Notes: God bless Texas. When compiling this list, I found so many of the theoretical stadium replacements were nearly serviceable by high school football fields. That’s insane, right? Anyway, Locomotive don’t have to settle for one of those, they’ve got the Sun Bowl, which had its capacity reduced in 2001 to a paltry 51,500 (from 52,000) specifically to accommodate soccer. Sure, it’s a turf surface, but what does new owner Paul Foster (who is only the 1,477th wealthiest man in the world, per Forbes) care, he’s got a team in a top league. Side note: Did you know that the Sun Bowl college football game is officially, through sponsorship, the Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl? Why is it not the Frosted Flakes Sun Bowl? Why is the cereal mascot the promotional name of the football game? What are you doing, Kellogg’s? Candidate: Las Vegas Lights FC Location: Las Vegas, Nev. (2,227,053) Time zone: Pacific Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Allegiant Stadium (Grass, 61,000) Potential owner: Sheldon Adelson (reported net worth $37.7 billion) Notes: Sin City. You had to know that the club that once signed Freddy Adu because “why not” was going to go all out in our flashy hypothetical proposal. Thanks to my narrative control of this whole thing, they have. Adelson is the second-richest owner in the league and has decided to do everything first class. That includes using the new Raiders stadium in nearby unincorporated Paradise, Nevada, and spending boatloads on high profile transfers. Zlatan is coming back to the U.S., confirmed. Candidate: New Mexico United Location: Albuquerque, N.M. Time zone: Mountain Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Isotopes Park – officially Rio Grande Credit Union Field at Isotopes Park (Grass, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion) Potential owner: Maloof Family (reported net worth $1 billion) Notes: New Mexico from its inception went deep on the community vibe, and I’ve tried to replicate that in this bid. The home field of Rio Grande Cr---I’m not typing out the whole thing—Isotopes Park falls just within the expansion rules we set to make it to 15,000 (weird, right?) and they’ve found a great local ownership group in the Lebanese-American Maloof (formerly Maalouf) family from Las Vegas. The only thing to worry about would be the metro population, but overall, this could be one of the gems of USL Prem. Candidate: Oklahoma City Energy FC Location: Oklahoma City, Okla. (1,396,445) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (Grass, 13,066) Potential owner: Harold Hamm (reported net worth $14.2 billion) Notes: There’s a bright golden haze on the meadow and it says it’s time to change stadiums and owners to make it to D1. A sale to oil magnate Harold Hamm would give the club the finances it needs, but Chickasaw Bricktown Ballpark (home of the OKC Dodgers) actually falls outside of the boundary of what would meet capacity if 1,500 seats were added. Could the club pull off a move to Gaylord Family Oklahoma Memorial Stadium in Norman, Oklahoma – home of the Oklahoma Sooners? Maybe, but at 20 miles, this would be a reach. Candidate: Orange County SC Location: Irvine, Calif. (3,176, 000 in Orange County) Time zone: Pacific Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Angels Stadium of Anaheim (Grass, 43,250) Potential owner: Arte Moreno (reported net worth $3.3 billion) Notes: You’ll never convince me that Rangers didn’t choose to partner with Orange County based primarily on its name. Either way, a sale to MLB Angels owner Arte Moreno produces a fruitful partnership, with the owner choosing to play his newest club out of the existing Angels stadium in OC. Another baseball conversion, sure, but with a metro population of over 3 million and the closest thing this hypothetical league has to an LA market, who’s complaining? Candidate: Phoenix Rising FC Location: Phoenix, Ariz. (4,857,962) Time zone: Arizona Stadium (playing surface, capacity): State Farm Stadium (Grass, 63,400) Potential owner: Ernest Garcia II (reported net worth $5.7 billion) Notes: We’re keeping it local with new owner and used car guru Ernest Garcia II. His dad owned a liquor store and he dropped out of college, which is making me feel amazing about my life choices right now. Casino Arizona Field is great, but State Farm Stadium is a grass surface that hosted the 2019 Gold Cup semifinal, so it’s a clear winner. Throw in Phoenix’s massive metro population and this one looks like a lock. Candidate: Reno 1868 FC Location: Reno, Nev. (425,417) Time zone: Pacific Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Mackay Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000) Potential owner: Nancy Walton Laurie (reported net worth $7.1 billion) Notes: The Biggest Little City on Earth has some serious barriers to overcome, thanks to its low metro population. A sale to Walmart heiress Nancy Walton Laurie and 1.6 mile-move to Mackay Stadium to split space with the University of Nevada, Reno makes this bid competitive, but the turf surface is another knock against it. Candidate: Rio Grande Valley FC Location: Edinburg, Texas (900,304) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): McAllen Memorial Stadium (FieldTurf, 13,500 – 15,000 with expansion) Potential owner: Alice Louise Walton (reported net worth $45 billion) Notes: Yes, I have a second straight Walmart heiress on the list. She was the first thing that popped up when I googled “McAllen Texas richest people.” The family rivalry has spurred Walton to buy a club as well, moving them 10 miles to McAllen Memorial Stadium which, as I alluded to earlier, is a straight up high school football stadium with a full color scoreboard. Toss in an additional 1,500 seats and you’ve met the minimum, despite the turf playing surface. Candidate: San Antonio FC Location: San Antonio, Texas (2,550,960) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Alamodome (FieldTurf, 64,000) Potential owner: Red McCombs (reported net worth $1.6 billion) Notes: I wanted to keep SAFC in the Spurs family, since the franchise is valued at $1.8 billion. That said, I didn’t let the Rooneys own the Riverhounds based on the Steelers’ value and it felt wrong to change the rules, so bring on Clear Channel co-founder Red McCombs. Toyota Field isn’t viable in the first division, but for the Alamodome, which was built in 1993 in hopes of attracting an NFL franchise (and never did), San Antonio can finally claim having *a* national football league team in its town (contingent on your definition of football). Now if only we could do something about that turf… Candidate: San Diego Loyal SC Location: San Diego, Calif. (3,317,749) Time zone: Pacific Stadium (playing surface, capacity): SDCCU Stadium (formerly Qualcomm) (Grass, 70,561) Potential owner: Phil Mickelson (reported net worth $91 million) Notes: Yes, golf’s Phil Mickelson. The existing ownership group didn’t seem to have the wherewithal to meet requirements, and Phil seemed to slot right in. As an athlete himself, he might be interesting in the new challenges of a top flight soccer team. Toss in a move to the former home of the chargers and you might have a basis for tremendous community support. Candidate: FC Tulsa Location: Tulsa, Okla. (991,561) Time zone: Central Stadium (playing surface, capacity): Skelly Field at H.A. Chapman Stadium (FieldTurf, 30,000) Potential owner: George Kaiser ($10 billion) Notes: I’m a fan of FC Tulsa’s rebrand, but if they want to make the first division, more changes are necessary. A sale to Tulsa native and one of the 100 richest men in the world George Kaiser means that funding is guaranteed. A move to Chapman Stadium would provide the necessary seats, despite the turf field. While the undersize population might be an issue at first glance, it’s hard to imagine U.S. Soccer not granting a waiver over a less than a 10k miss from the mark. And that’s it! You made it. Those are all of the independent/hybrid affiliates in the USL Championship, which means that it’s time for our… VERDICT: As an expert who has studied this issue for almost an entire day now, I am prepared to pronounce which USL Championships could be most ‘ready” for a jump to the USL Prem. A reminder that of the 27 clubs surveyed, 0 of them met our ideal criteria (proper ownership $, metro population, 15,000+ stadium with grass field). Two of them, however, met almost all of those criteria: Indy Eleven and Miami FC. Those two clubs may use up two of our three available turf fields right from the outset, but the other factors they hit (particularly Silva’s ownership of Miami) makes them difficult, if not impossible to ignore for the top flight. But who fill in the rest of the slots? Meet the entire 14-team USL Premier League: Hartford Athletic Indy Eleven Louisville City FC Miami FC North Carolina FC Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC Tampa Bay Rowdies Saint Louis FC San Antonio FC New Mexico United Phoenix Rising FC Las Vegas Lights FC Orange County SC San Diego Loyal SC Now, I shall provide my expert rationale for each club’s inclusion/exclusion, which can be roughly broken down into four categories. Firm “yes” Hartford Athletic: It’s a good market size with a solid stadium. With a decent investor and good community support, you’ve got potential here. Indy Eleven: The turf at Lucas Oil Stadium is no reason to turn down a 62,421 venue and a metro population of over 2 million. Louisville City FC: Why doesn’t the 2017 & 2018 USL Cup champion deserve a crack at the top flight? They have the market size, and with a bit of expansion have the stadium at their own SSS. LCFC, you’re in. Miami FC, “The”: Our other blue-chip recruit on the basis of ownership value, market size and stadium capacity. Yes, that field is turf, but how could you snub Silva’s chance to claim victory as the first division 1 club soccer team to play in Miami? Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC: Pittsburgh sacrificed a lot to be here (according to my arbitrary calculations). Their market size and the potential boon of soccer at Heinz Field is an important inclusion to the league. Saint Louis FC: Willie hears your “Busch League” jokes, Willie don’t care. A huge market size, combined with the absence of an NFL franchise creates opportunity. Competition with the MLS side, sure, but St. Louis has serious soccer history and we’re willing to bet it can support two clubs. Tampa Bay Rowdies: With a huge population and a massive stadium waiting nearby, Tampa Bay seems like too good of an opportunity to pass up for the USL Prem. Las Vegas Lights FC: Ostentatious, massive and well-financed, Las Vegas Lights FC is everything that the USL Premier League would need to assert that it didn’t intend to play second fiddle to MLS. Players will need to be kept on a short leash, but this is a hard market to pass up on. Phoenix Rising FC: Huge population, big grass field available nearby and a solid history of success in recent years. No brainer. San Diego Loyal SC: New club? Yes, massive population in a market that recently lost an absolutely huge sports presence? Also yes. This could be the USL Prem’s Seattle. Cautious “yes” New Mexico United: You have to take a chance on New Mexico United. The club set the league on fire with its social media presence and its weight in the community when it entered the league last season. The market may be slightly under USSF’s desired 1 million, but fervent support (and the ability to continue to use Isotopes Park) shouldn’t be discounted. North Carolina FC: Carter-Finley’s mixed grass/turf surface is a barrier, to be sure, but the 57,000+ seats it offers (and being enough to offset other fully-turf offerings) is enough to put it in the black. Orange County SC: It’s a top-tier club playing in a MLB stadium. I know it seems unlikely that USSF would approve something like that, but believe me when I say “it could happen.” Orange County is a massive market and California likely needs two clubs in the top flight. San Antonio FC: Our third and only voluntary inclusion to the turf fields in the first division, we’re counting on San Antonio’s size and massive potential stadium to see it through. Cautious “no” Birmingham Legion FC: The town has solid soccer history and a huge potential venue, but the turf playing surface puts it on the outside looking in. Memphis 901 FC: Like Birmingham, not much to dislike here outside of the turf playing surface at the larger playing venue. Austin Bold FC: See the other two above. FC Tulsa: Everything’s just a little bit off with this one. Market’s slightly too small, stadium has turf. Just not enough to put it over the top. Firm “no” Charleston Battery: Small metro and a small potential new stadium? It’s tough to say yes to the risk. Charlotte Independence: A small new stadium and the possibility of having to compete with an organization that just paid over $300 million to join MLS means it’s best for this club to remain in the USL Championship. Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC: When a club’s best chance to meet a capacity requirement is to host games at a venue controlled by the military, that doesn’t speak well to a club’s chances. El Paso Locomotive FC: An undersized market and a turf field that meets capacity requirements is the death knell for this one. Oklahoma City Energy FC: Having to expand a baseball field to meet requirements is a bad start. Having to potentially play 20 miles away from your main market is even worse. Reno 1868 FC: Population nearly a half-million short of the federation’s requirements AND a turf field at the hypothetical new stadium makes impossible to say yes to this bid. Rio Grande Valley FC: All the seat expansions in the world can’t hide the fact that McAllen Memorial Stadium is a high school stadium through and through. Here’s who’s left in the 11-team Championship: Birmingham Legion FC Charleston Battery Charlotte Independence Memphis 901 FC Austin Bold FC Colorado Springs Switchbacks FC El Paso Locomotive FC Oklahoma City Energy FC Reno 1868 FC Rio Grande Valley FC FC Tulsa With MLS folding the six affiliates it has in USL League One, the league is a little bit thin (especially considering USSF’s requirements for 8 teams for lower level leagues), but seems definitely able to expand up to the necessary numbers with Edwards’ allusions to five new additions this year: Chattanooga Red Wolves SC Forward Madison FC Greenville Triumph SC Union Omaha Richmond Kickers South Georgia Tormenta FC Tucson Format of Assorted Leagues – This (like everything in this post) is pure conjecture on my part, but here are my thoughts on how these leagues might function in a first year while waiting for additional expansion. USL Premier – We’ll steal from the 12-team Scottish Premiership. Each club plays the other 11 clubs 3 times, with either one or two home matches against each side. When each club has played 33 matches, the top six and bottom six separate, with every club playing an additional five matches (against each other team in its group). The top club wins the league. The bottom club is automatically relegated. The second-bottom club will enter a two-legged playoff against someone (see below) from the championship playoffs. USL Championship -- 11 clubs is a challenge to schedule for. How about every club plays everyone else three times (either one or two home matches against each side)? Top four clubs make the playoffs, which are decided by two-legged playoffs. The winner automatically goes up. I need feedback on the second part – is it better to have the runner-up from the playoffs face the second-bottom club from the Premiership, or should the winner of the third-place match-up get the chance to face them to keep drama going in both playoff series? As for relegation, we can clearly only send down the last place club while the third division is so small. USL League One – While the league is so small, it doesn’t seem reasonable to have the clubs play as many matches as the higher divisions. Each club could play the other six clubs four times – twice at home and twice away – for a very equitable 24-match regular season, which would help restrict costs and still provide a chance to determine a clear winner. Whoever finishes top of the table goes up. And there you have it, a hypothetical look at how the USL could build a D1 league right now. All it would take is a new stadium for almost the entire league and new owners for all but one of the 27 clubs, who wouldn’t feel that their property would be massively devalued if they got relegated. Well that’s our show. I’m curious to see what you think of all of this, especially anything that you think I may have overlooked (I’m sure there’s plenty). Anyway, I hope you’re all staying safe and well.
My roommates girlfriend is accusing me of stealing $5000
I live in a two bedroom apartment, in march of this year I broke up with my girlfriend and I needed to find a roommate. The first thing I did was put the feelers out with some of my neighbors. One of my neighbors had a friend that had just moved to San Diego and was staying on his couch while looking for permanent residence. I didn’t know my neighbor super well but he had a big fat bulldog named Porkroll so that was enough to earn my trust. “Guy” moved in. He was a chef by trade and for the first few weeks I never saw him, his 14 to 15 hour shifts at the restaurant made his life sleep work sleep work repeat. He paid his rent and utilities quickly and was almost never home, and when he was he brought me food. The perfect roommate. Then Covid happened. He was laid off from the restaurant. I received a text asking me if his girlfriend from Chicago could move in with us, he said that she was cool and they would use the free time to find a place of their own. Both turned out to be false. Over the months of the quarantine they would fight to no end, it seemed like almost every night. Screaming matches that would go into the early hours of the morning. A few of them got to the point where other neighbors had called the police for a domestic disturbance. At this point it would be hard to describe how much I dislike “Girl” but one of my first interactions with her describes it best. Guy made ramen, he spent all day making a broth, even made some pot stickers, and I thought it was great. She hated it, apparently it was so bad she couldn’t get through Jumanji 2 and had to leave to get other food. It appalled her so much he was no longer allowed to cook their meals. A chef. Also one of their fights got to the point that he was speeding off in his car and she threw one of my glasses at him, shattering it. It was a pint glass that had a e-card meme on it that said “looks like it’s fuck this shit o’clock” with a guy throwing papers in the air. In the grand scheme of things it's not that important but it was a christmas gift from my sister in 2011 and I considered it a prized possession. The way the apartment is setup I have a bedroom with a walk-in closet and a bathroom, which allowed me to interact with them as little as possible.For the most part that ment I only needed to interact with them when necessary. Necessary being when a homeless guy was standing around our stairwell and Girl took an unloaded paintball gun to scare him off with mock gunfire. So most nights they use my TV that is in the living room, watching youtube videos on my account. This doesn’t bother me but it does let me see their entire watch history. The only thing they watch is about gambeling. I mean I can’t judge. I'll watch hours of people doing metal work, using lathes and welding when I have no way to do it myself. But the thing they watch the most is slots, people live streaming themselves at casinos playing high roller slot machines and winning large sums of money. About a month ago it was night and they had been gone all day. There is a knock on the door at 4 am, it's Girl. She said they were at one of the Indian gaming casinos and she doesn’t know where Guy is. He showed up late the next day, and was an absolute wreck. Two weeks ago they let me know they were going to Vegas now that things are starting to reopen. They were gone for a week, which I can only describe as pure bliss, and came back without issue. Saturday 6/20 I carpool with my parents up to North County San Diego to spend the weekend at my brothers, my first time seeing my family and not sleeping in my room in four months, a true vacation. My sister-in-law is pregnant so for health and safety reasons she asked if I could get a hotel room. Yes ma’am, vacation. Sunday 6/21 at 9am I get a text from Guy. “Theres been a large sum of money stollen from myself and Girl as of last night I'm contacting the police to file a police report. Can you please give me the landlords number to go through the proper channels, locks need to be changed and all the proper details need to be followed to get to the bottom of what has happened. Girl and myself will seek additional help to recover all losses It’s unfortunate this is happening on father’s day. But it needs to be addressed, Immediately. Guy” I'm a musician and a nerd, so my first thought was about my gear in my bedroom and my computers. I asked if he could go into my room to see if anything was taken but he doesn’t respond. My father had passed the Bar in New Orleans in the 80’s but now does commercial marine insurance. He let me take his car to go back down to see what was going on. Because Guy wasn’t responding, I called the Neighbor with the bull dog, he agreed to go in my room and confirmed that my music gear and tech were there as I described it. I arrive, Girl is in their bedroom with the door closed, Guy is sitting at a table in our common area on the computer. looking back, this is when I realize that I might be a little naive. Because I’ve lived my life outside the long arm of the law (aside from traffic and parking tickets) It did not occur to me that they would be accusing me of stealing the money, but from his tone I could tell something was weird. In the common area they had two sets of golf clubs, he said she had her purse in her golf bag and it had $5000 cash inside and that it was stolen. I asked if they had taken the golf clubs out while it was in there and he said yes but it was always close to them so it was in eyesight the whole time. My first thought was leave the situation and call your dad for advice. As I have never been in a situation like this I honestly didn’t know what to do. What he told me was: Directly ask him if I am being accused of stealing the money, and if he says yes say I didn’t do it. After that don’t say anything without legal counsel present. I did that. Girl bursts out the door enraged and screaming. I said one thing “ I am not going to talk about this without legal counsel present” she said many, many things, here are the highlights. “I know you did it you fucking crack head whitetrash peice of shit. I know people, we're getting your fingerprints and you are going down. Make it easy on yourself just give us back the money. Just give us back the money and everything will be ok for you. Just give us back the money Just give us back the money Just give us back the money” It was like that but many more times and a lot louder and meaner. I left the apartment and went across the street to call non-emergency, I told them I didn’t feel safe, described Guy and Girl, and they showed up 4 hours later. The officers had already talked to Guy and Girl when they talked to me. They asked me If I took the money and I said no. They said it would be a lot easier if I just gave the money back. I said I didn’t take the money. They said you know they will be pressing charges. I said yes. I asked if I was free to go and they said yes. I put all my computers, and musical instruments in the car and drove back up to my brothers. While driving my sisters, who are enraged, look up Guy and Girl and find that Girl has from what we can tell at least 4 arrests in Chicago, the one we could see was for assault and battery. Spent the rest of fathers day with my family, we had Whiteclaw, and tacos. I am now back at the hotel, at around 11pm, Girl sends me a text. Apparently Guy gave her my number, she didn’t have it before. “MY MONEY BETTER BE ON THIS TABLE BY MORNING. PERIOD!!!! YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!” From my Dad's advice I probably shouldn't have said anything, but I did. “I really don’t understand why you guys are doing this. I know you haven't known me that long but I can’t believe you actually think I stole money from you. And more importantly, and this should be obvious: If this goes to court it will be a monumental waste of time and money for both of us. First off, I didn’t steal the money, so if you launch some sort of investigation nothing will be found. From a quick internet search Girl has a multiple arrest record from Chicago. Two weeks ago you both spent a week in Vegas where you would have clearly had time to spend the money. Because it’s my youtube account on the TV there is a clear history of you guys watching videos that revolve around slots and gambling. Absolutely nothing about your accusations makes any sense. But the most important thing is, and I genuinely suggest you take this in full consideration: Through my family I have access to legal counsel, that if this does go to court, will turn it into a complete fucking bloodbath. Please, I beg you, save both of us the wasted time and money and just walk away.” She responded: “ON THE TABLE IN THE MORNING” “You’re a white trash crackhead thief. ON THE TABLE BY MORNING 9AM SHARP” “MY FAMILY WILL BE HERE TO HANDLE THIS WITH ME” “9AM IN FULL” Yeah so now it's 2 am and i'm in a hotel room in northern San Diego. All in all, not the worst fathers day I've had but close. While my father did practice Law in the 80’s and so far all of his advice has seemed correct. I figured it might be beneficial to ask some questions. Is a restraining order necessary? I’m sure I can look up how to get one but do I need to? Can I kick them out? My landlord told me we can give them a 30 notice to leave but I’m not sure if the covid thing affects that. And honestly I would never do this because I don’t have an aggressive bone in my body but what legal action could I take towards them if any? Alright, the adrenaline is wearing off, thanks for listening.
Collecting California brewery bottle caps...where can I find more?
I am trying to collect bottle caps from as many CA-based based breweries as possible...I think I've bought all the individual ones currently available on eBay. Looking for recommendations on where I might be able to find more, whether for individual sale or in bulk. I even have a list of the breweries I'm still missing. I lived in CA for several years where my collection began. I'm trying to get bottle caps from 61 different breweries to fill a wooden map of CA. Currently I have 25. I've posted in CaliforniaBeer as well, just looking for whatever recommendations are out there. Edit: Breweries I am currently looking for listed below
• 21st Amendment Brewery in San Leandro • Ale Industries in Oakland • Altamont Beer Works in Livermore • Buffalo Bill's Brewery in Hayward • Cleophus Quealy Beer Company in San Leandro • Diving Dog Brewhouse in Oakland • Drake's Brewing Company in San Leandro • Eight Bridges Brewing Company in Livermore • Faction Brewing in Alameda • Fieldwork Brewing Company in Berkeley • Hoi Polloi Brewpub and Beat Lounge in Berkeley • JP DasBrew in Fremont • Oakland United Beerworks (formerly Linden Street Brewery) in Oakland • Old Kan Beer & Co. in Oakland • The Rare Barrel in Berkeley • Shadow Puppet Brewing Company in Livermore • Triple Rock Brewery and Alehouse in Berkeley • Trumer Brauerei in Berkeley • Woods Bar & Brewery in Oakland • Working Man Brewing Company in Livermore
• Amador Brewing Company in Plymouth • Butte County • Sierra Nevada Brewing Company headquarters in Chico • Eckert Malting and Brewing in Chico • Feather Falls Casino Brewing Company in Oroville • Feather River Brewing Company in Magalia • NorCal Brewing in Chico • Secret Trail Brewing in Chico
Contra Costa County
• Calicraft in Walnut Creek • Danville Brewing Company in Danville • E.J. Phair Brewing Company in Pittsburg • Farm Creek Brewing Company in Walnut Creek • Elevation 66 Brewing Company in El Cerrito • Schubros Brewery in San Ramon • Epidemic Ales in Concord • Ocean View Brew Works in Albany
El Dorado County
• The Brewery at Lake Tahoe in South Lake Tahoe • Cold Water Brewery and Grill in South Lake Tahoe • Cool Beerwerks in Cool • El Dorado Brewing Company in Diamond Springs • Gold Hill Winery and Brewery in Placerville • HWY 50 Brewery in Camino • Jack Russell Farm Brewery in Camino • Lake Tahoe AleWorX in South Lake Tahoe • Mraz Brewing Company in El Dorado Hills • Outbreak Brewing Company in Placerville • Outpost Brewing Company in South Lake Tahoe • Placerville Brewing Company in Placerville • Sidellis Lake Tahoe in South Lake Tahoe • Solid Ground Brewing in Diamond Springs • South Lake Brewing Company in South Lake Tahoe • Stash Brewing Co. in Garden Valley • Stateline Brewery and Restaurant in South Lake Tahoe
• The Mad Duck Craft Brewery in Fresno • Fresno Brewing Company in Fresno • Full Circle Brewing in Fresno • Pine & Palm Brewing in Fresno • Tactical OPS Brewing in Fresno • Tioga–Sequoia Brewing Company in Fresno
• Eel River Brewing Company in Fortuna • Redwood Curtain Brewing Company in Arcata • Six Rivers Brewery in McKinleyville
• Mountain Rambler Brewery in Bishop
• Crusader Brewing in Bakersfield • Dionysus Brewing Company in Bakersfield • Great Change Brewing in Bakersfield • Kern River Brewing Company in Kernville • Lengthwise Brewing in Bakersfield • Local Craft Beer in Tehachapi • Temblor Brewing Company in Bakersfield
• Bird Street Brewing in Lemoore • Hop Forged Brewing Company in Hanford
Kelsey Creek Brewing Company in Kelseyville
Mount St. Helena Brewing Company in Middletown
O'Meara Brothers Brewing Company in Lakeport
Los Angeles County
Absolution Brewing Company in Torrance
Alosta Brewing Co in Covina
Ambitious Ales in Los Angeles
Angel City Brewery in Los Angeles
Beachwood BBQ and Brewery in Long Beach
Belmont Brewing Company in Long Beach
Bravery Brewing in Lancaster
Brouwerij West in San Pedro
Congregation Ale House in Azusa
Cosmic Brewery in Torrance
Claremont Craft Ales in Claremont
The Dudes' Brewing Company in Torrance
Eagle Rock Brewery in Los Angeles
El Segundo Brewing Company in El Segundo
Golden Road Brewery in Los Angeles
Gordon Biersch Brewing Company in Burbank
Hand-Brewed Beer in Chatsworth
Homage Brewing in Pomona
Kinetic Brewing Company in Lancaster
King Harbor Brewing Company in Redondo Beach
MacLeod Ale Brewing Company in Los Angeles
MillerCoors brewery in Irwindale
Monkish Brewing Company in Torrance
Mumford Brewing in Los Angeles
Ohana Brewing Company in Los Angeles
Pacific Plate Brewing Company in Monrovia
Progress Brewing in South El Monte
Red Car Brewery in Torrance
Skyscraper Brewing Company in El Monte
Sanctum Brewing Company in Pomona
Scholb Premium Ales in Torrance
Strand Brewing Company in Torrance
Timeless Pints Brewing Company in Lakewoo
• South Gate Brewing Company in Oakhurst
• Adobe Creek Brewing in Novato • Indian Valley Brewing in Novato • Iron Springs Pub & Brewery in Fairfax • Marin Brewing in Larkspur • Moylan's Brewery in Novato • Pond Farm Brewing in San Rafael • The State Room in San Rafael
• Yosemite Ale Werks in Mariposa
• Bobcat Brewing Company in Merced
• Mammoth Brewing Company in Mammoth Lakes • June Lake Brewing in June Lake
• Alvarado Street Brewery in Monterey • Cannery Row Brewing Company in Monterey • English Ales in Marina • Peter B's Brew Pub in Monterey • Yeast of Eden in Carmel
• Calistoga Inn, Restaurant and Brewing in Calistoga • Downtown Joe's Brewery in Napa • Mad Fritz in St. Helena • Napa Smith Brewery in Napa • St. Clair Brown in Napa • Tannery Bend Beerworks in Napa • Trade Brewing in Napa
• FiftyFifty Brewing Company in Truckee • Nevada Brewery in Nevada City • Ol' Republic Brewery in Nevada City • Tahoe Mountain Brewing Company in Truckee • Three Forks Bakery & Brewing Company in Nevada City
• Anaheim Brewery in Anaheim • Barley Forge Brewing Company in Costa Mesa • Brewing Reserve of California in Costa Mesa • Bootlegger's Brewery in Fullerton and Costa Mes • Bottle Logic Brewing, Anaheim • Cismontane Brewing Company in Santa Ana • The Good Beer Company in Santa Ana • Green Cheek Beer Company in Orange • Gunwhale Ales in Costa Mesa • Laguna Beach Beer Company in Rancho Santa Margarita and Laguna Beach • Left d Brewing Company in San Clemente and Irvine • Network Brewery in Santa Ana • Noble Ale Works in Anaheim • Old Orange Brewing Company in Orange • Riip Beer Company in Huntington Beach • TAPS Brewery & Barrel Room in Tustin • Tustin Brewing Company in Tustin • Valiant Brewing Company in Orange
• Auburn Alehouse in Auburn • Boneshaker Public House and Community Brewery in Rocklin • Crooked Lane Brewing Company in Auburn • GoatHouse Brewing Company in Lincoln • Knee Deep Brewing Company in Auburn • Loomis Basin Brewing Company in Loomis • Moksa Brewing in Rocklin • Moonraker Brewing Company in Auburn • Out of Bounds Brewing Company in Rocklin • Slice Beer Company in Lincoln • The Monk's Cellar in Roseville
• The Brewing Lair of the Sierra (formerly UnderCover Ale Works) • Waganupa Brewing in Chester • Quintopia Brewing Co in Quincy
• Aftershock Brewing Company in Temecula • Area 51 Craft Brewery in Riverside • Babe's BBQ & Brewhouse in Rancho Mirage • Black Market Brewing Company in Temecula • Brew Rebellion in Banning • Brewcaipa Brewing in Yucaipa • Coachella Valley Brewing in Thousand Palms • Desert Beer Company in Palm Desert • Electric Brewing Company in Murrieta • Grey Wolf in Norco • Inland Empire Brewing Company in Riverside • Ironfire Brewing Company in Temecula • La Quinta Brewing in Palm Desert • Las Palmas Brewing in Palm Springs • Refuge Brewery in Temecula • Wiens Brewing Company in Temecula • Woody's Brewhouse in Moreno Valley
• Alaro Brewing in Sacramento • At Ease Brewing in Sacramento • Big Sexy Brewing in Sacramento • Big Stump Brew Co. in Sacramento • Burning Barrel Brewing in Rancho Cordova • Claimstake Brewing in Rancho Cordova • Delta Borne Brewing in Sacramento • Device Brewing Company in Sacramento • Dreaming Dog Brewery in Elk Grove • Flatland Brewing in Elk Grove • Fort Rock Brewing in Rancho Cordova • Fountainhead Brewing in Sacramento • Hoppy Brewing Co in Sacramento • King Cong Brewing Company in Sacramento • New Glory Craft Brewery in Sacramento • New Helvetia Brewing in Sacramento • Oak Park Brewing in Sacramento • Palm Tree Brewing Company in Orangevale • Porchlight Brewing in Sacramento • Red Bus Brewing in Folsom • River Rock Brewery in Galt • Sacrament Brewing in Sacramento • Tower Brewing in Sacramento • Track 7 Brewing Company in Sacramento • Tilted Mash Brewing in Elk Grove • Urban Roots Brewing in Sacramento
San Bernardino County
• 3 Iron Brewing Co. in Colton • Brewcaipa in Yucaipa • Desert Barn Brewery in Hesperia • Escape Craft Brewery in Redlands • Hangar 24 Craft Brewery in Redlands • I & I Brewing in Chino • Kings Brewing in Rancho Cucamonga • Oak Hills Brewing Company in Hesperia • Ritual Brewing Co. in Redlands • Rowdy's Brew Co. in Rancho Cucamonga • Sour Cellars in Rancho Cucamonga
San Francisco City and County
• 21st Amendment Brewery • Barrel Head Brewhouse • Beach Chalet Brewery & Restaurant • Black Sands Brewery • Black Hammer Brewing • Cellarmaker Brewing Company • Cervezería de MateVeza • Eagle Brewery • Enterprise Brewery • Fort Point Beer Company • Golden City Brewery • Hamm's Brewer • Harmonic Brewing • Hibernia Brewery • Laughing Monk Brewing • Lafayette Brewery • Local Brewing Company • Magnolia Brewing Company • Schuster's Railroad Brewery • Seven Stills • Southern Pacific Brewing • Speakeasy Ales and Lagers • Sunset Reservoir Brewing Company • Thirsty Bear Brewing Company • Triple Voodoo Brewing • Washington Brewery • Willow's Brewery
San Joaquin County
• Dancing Fox Winery and Brewery in Lodi • Five Window Beer Company in Lodi • High Water Brewing Company in Lodi • Idol Beer Works in Lodi • Lodi Beer Company in Lodi • Morgan Territory Brewing in Tracy
San Luis Obispo County
• 927 Beer Company in Cambria • BarrelHouse Brewing Co. in Paso Robles • Libertine Brewing Company in San Luis Obispo • Tap It Brewing Company in San Luis Obispo
San Mateo County
• 47 Hills Brewing in South San Francisco • Alpha Acid Brewing Company in Belmont • Armstrong Brewing Company in South San Francisco • Blue Oak Brewing Company in San Carlos • Devil's Canyon Brewing Company in Belmont • Freewheel Brewing Company in Redwood City • Half Moon Bay Brewing Company in Princeton-by-the-Sea • Highway 1 Brewing in Pescadero • Hop Dogma Brewing in El Granada • Sacrilege Brewery + Kitchen in Half Moon Bay
Santa Barbara County
• Captain Fatty's Brewery in Goleta • Island Brewing Company in Carpinteria • M. Special Brewing Company in Goleta • Pure Order Brewing Company in Santa Barbara • Solvang Brewing Company in Solvang • Telegraph Brewing Company in Santa Barbara
Santa Clara County
• Clandestine Brewing in San Jose • El Toro Brewing Company in Morgan Hill • Gordon Biersch Brewing Company in San Jose • Hermitage Brewing Company in San Jose • Kelly Brewing in Morgan Hill
Santa Cruz County
• Discretion Brewing in Soquel • Humble Sea Brewing Company in Santa Cruz • New Bohemia Brewing Company in Capitola • Santa Cruz Mountain Brewing in Santa Cruz • Sante Adairius Rustic Ales in Capitola • Seabright Brewery in Santa Cruz • Steel Bonnet Brewing Company in Scotts Valley • Uncommon Brewers in Santa Cruz
• Fall River Brewing Co. in Fall River Mills • Wildcard Brewing in Redding • Final Draft Brewing in Redding • Woody's Brewing Co. in Redding
• Dunsmuir Brewery Works in Dunsmuir • Etna Brewing Company in Etna • Mt. Shasta Brewing Company in Weed • Siskiyou Brew Works
• Heretic Brewing Company in Fairfield • Right Eye Brewery in Suisun • Mare Island Brewing Company in Vallejo
• Carneros Brewing Company in Sonoma • Fog Belt Brewing Company in Santa Rosa • Moonlight Brewing Company in Santa Rosa • Old Redwood Brewing Company in Windsor • Petaluma Hills Brewing Company in Petaluma • Seismic Brewing Company in Santa Rosa • Sonoma Springs Brewing Company in Sonoma • St. Florian's Brewery in Windsor • Stumptown Brewery in Guerneville • Third Street Aleworks in Santa Rosa
• St. Stan's Brewery in Modesto • Blaker Brewing in Ceres
• Anacapa Brewing in Ventura • Casa Agria Specialty Ales in Ventura • Enegren Brewing Co. in Moorpark • Flat Fish Brewing Company in Camarillo • Institution Ale Co. in Camarillo • Leashless Brewing Co. in Ventura • MadeWest Brewing in Ventura • Poseidon Brewing Company in Ventura • Red Tandem Brewery in Ventura • Surf Brewery in Ventura • Topa Topa Brewing Company in Ventura • Ventura Coast Brew Co. in Ventura • Westlake Brewing Co. in Westlake Village
• Bike Dog Brewing Company in West Sacramento • Dunloe Brewing in Davis • Jackrabbit Brewing Company in West Sacramento • Super Owl Brewing in Davis • Three Mile Brewing Company in Davis • Yolo Brewing in West Sacramento
San Diego County
• Burgeon Beer Company • Carlsbad Brewing Company • Pizza Port • Rouleur Brewing Company • Offbeat Brewing Co • Nickel Beer Company • Bagby Beer Company • Legacy Brewing Company • Breakwater Brewing Co • Oceanside Ale Works • ChuckAlek Independent Brewers • Abnormal Beer Company • Acoustic Ales Brewing Experiment • Align Brewing • Amplified Aleworks • The Beer Company • Deft Brewing • Division 23 Brewing • Duck Foot Brewing Company • Eppig Brewing • Fall Brewing • Kilowatt Brewing • Little Miss Brewing • Longship Brewery • Mike Hess Brewing Co. • Mikkeller • Mission Brewery • Modern Times Beer • New English Brewing Co. • North Park Beer Company • O'Sullivan Brother's Brewing • Pacific Beach Alehouse • Pariah Brewing Company • Protector Brewing • Rip Current Brewing • Rough Draft Brewing Company • Saint Archer Brewing • San Diego Brewing Company • Savagewood • Societe Brewing Company • Thorn Street Brewery • Thunderhawk Alements • Lost Abbey • Port Brewing Company • Rip Current Brewing Company • Stumblefoot Brewing Company • Wild Barrel Brewing Company • Aztec Brewing Company • Barrel Harbor Brewing • Belching Beaver Brewery • Booze Brothers Brewing Company • Indian Joe Brewing Company • Latitude 33 Brewing • Mother Earth Brew Co. • Toolbox Brewing
Alright, this is a fairly comprehensive list of all the active launch sites on Earth as of the year 1999, in Overheaven’s alternate history timeline. Realistically, most of these only launch satellites, and the ones that do shoot people into space are probably doing so with capsules, though the more developed countries have fleets of reusable space planes (both manned and unmanned). The overwhelming majority of launches are going to be routine unmanned, reusable rockets sending up supplies or satellites or space station construction materials, and then touching back down on the launch pad like SpaceX's BFR (we get that level of reusable launch vehicle by the mid/late 70's, rather than the late 2010’s - amazing what you can accomplish when two superpowers feel the need to put thousands of nukes in orbit, because the 1967 Outer Space Treaty never happened). Many are run by the military or public-sector space agencies like the ESA, NASA, the Commonwealth Space Program, or Soyuzcosmos (the USSR's NASA counterpart), but I'm willing to bet that at least half (perhaps even two-thirds) of these are private-sector operations, and most non-military public-sector launch sites do private-sector flights as well. Rockets like the Sea Dragon theoretically don't really need launchpads, and while there might be launch facilities which specialize with Sea Dragon-type rockets, I think that the smaller spaceflight companies would just buy one of these rockets, strap the payload on top, and tow it out to sea near the equator for launch. And there's also air-launched sub-orbital vehicles (stuff like Virgin Galactic's White Knight), which I wager could take off from regular old airports on the backs of Boeing 747's or Antonov 124's. Some of these are existing rocket launch sites (mostly for sounding rockets), which I've turned into full-on Cape Canaveral/Baikonur-type facilities, while others are proposed locations for launch sites, and some are just good ideas I figured would work but never appeared in our timeline. Anyway, I'm pretty sure this is enough space infrastructure to serve as the basis for a smoothly-running interplanetary civilization by 1999, with the Internet still in its infancy. In Overheaven’s alternate timeline, the lack of an OST leads to a more aggressive and ambitious space race. Men on on Mars by 1976, men on Venus by 1978, and the construction of huge nuclear missile platforms in orbit by both superpowers. By the late 70’s, space industry was just getting started, and by the 80’s, the “Space Boom” was in full swing, baby. Experimental atomic research, rotating space hotels, medical and chemical research labs in orbit, space manufacturing, solar power satellites, mining near-earth asteroids, space tourism, orbital fuel depots, telecom sats, space casinos, offworld banking, and so much more. By the late 1990’s, the idea of people working and even living in space is still exciting, but it’s also pretty damn normal now. With all these launches, plus material being extracted from Luna and near-Earth asteroids, I think it's perfectly feasible for there to be a few Stanford Toruses, and at least one O'Neill Cylinder, under construction in Earth orbit by '99. And as launch costs continue to plummet, expect the scale of humanity's ambitions to only escalate. And these are just the launch sites on Earth. I don't even know how many orbital launch facilities there'd be by this point - huge space stations building truly-massive vessels in zero-g with all those resources we're shooting up on what I imagine is a daily or even hourly basis; ships like those, built and fueled in orbit, would undoubtedly be able to reach Mars, Venus, Mercury, the Main Belt and Jupiter with relative ease. And everything I've stated here will only continue to grow at a geometric rate as more of the Solar System's resources are harnessed, spaceflight costs continue to drop, and technology continues to improve. And we’re not talking about Overheaven’s current year, which isn’t actually 1999. It’s 2185. Oh, right. Here's the list: United States of America: Cape Kennedy Space Center (Merritt Island, Florida) Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport (Delmarva Peninsula, Virginia) John Glenn Memorial Spaceport (Matagorda Island, Texas) Southwestern Regional Spaceport (Roswell, New Mexico) White Sands Launch Center (White Sands, New Mexico) Datil Launch Center (Datil, New Mexico) Yuma Spaceport (Yuma, Arizona) Keweenaw Spaceport (Keweenaw Peninsula, Michigan) John Bardeen Memorial Launch Center (Sheboygan, Wisconsin) Mojave Spaceport (Mojave, California) Vanderberg Space Center (Lompoc, California) Oklahoma Spaceport (Burn Flats, Oklahoma) Kodiak Launch Complex (Kodiak Island, Alaska) Stockton Space Center (Stockton, Arizona) Lone Star Space Center (Van Horn, Texas) Coleman Launch Center (Sea Dragon launch facility located between Tutuila island and Manu’a island, American Samoa) Johnston Space Center (Johnston Atoll, Pacific Ocean) Sarigan Launch Center (Sairgan, Northern Marianas Islands) Reagan Launch Center (Kwajalein Atoll, Republic of the Marshall Islands) Poseidon (privately-operated mobile sea-launch platform in the Gulf of Mexico) Ocean Odyssey Launch Complex (privately-operated mobile sea-launch platform in the Pacific Ocean) Union of Soviet Sovereign Republics: Baikonur Cosmodrome (Baikonur, Star City) Tereshkova Cosmodrome (Zapovednoye, Primorsky Krai, Far Eastern SSR) Vostochny Cosmodrome (Tsiolkovsky, Amur Oblast, Far Eastern SSR) Okhotsk Cosmodrome (Okhotsk, Khabarovsk Krai, Far Eastern SSR) Sarishagan Cosmodrome (Priozersk, Karaganda Oblast, Kazakh SSR) Nyonoksa Cosmodrome (Severodvinsk, Archangelsk Oblast, Russian SSR) Plesetsk Cosmodrome (Mirny, Archangelsk Oblast, Russian SSR) Kapustin Yar Cosmodrome (Znamensk, Astrakhan Oblast, Russian SSR) Isakov Cosmodrome (mobile sea-launch platform in the Indian Ocean, currently 960 miles off the coast of Sri Lanka) European Space Agency/European Union: Guiana Space Center (Kourou, French Guiana) Archimedes Launch Center (Syracuse, Sicily, Italy) Nuka Hiva Space Center (Marquises, French Polynesia) Touamotu Space Center (Rairoa, French Polynesia) Fort-Dauphin Space Center (Tôlanaro, Republic of Madagascar) Borglio Space Center (offshore platform off the coast of Kenya, administered by Italy) Koroni Launch Center (Messenia, Greece) Salto di Quirra Spaceport (Sardinia, Italy) Cuxhaven Launch Center (Cuxhaven, Germany) Ile du Levant Launch Center (Iles d’Hyeres, France) El Arenosillo Spaceport (Mazagon, Spain) Svalbard Space Center (Ny-Alesund, Svalbard, Norway) (northern-most spaceport in the world) Andøya Space Center (Andøya, Norway) Esrange Launch Center (Kiruna, Sweden) Oberth-Barre Launch Center (Bangoli, Orientale Province, Zaire) OTRAG Launch Center (North Sheba, Katanga Province, Zaire) (privately-operated spaceport, under German/EU jurisdiction) People’s Republic of China: Dongfeng Aerospace City (Ejin Banner, Inner Mongolia) Hotan Aerospace City (Hotan, Xinjiang) Xichang Launch Center (Liangshan, Sichuan) Wenchang Launch Center (Wenchang, Hainan) Taiyaun Launch Center (Xinzhou, Shanxi) Taiwan (Republic of China): Sanxiantai Launch Center (Sanxiantai, Taitung) Haiqian Launch Center (Manzhou, Pingtung) Republic of Bulgaria: Smrikite Cosmodrome (Varna Province) Republic of Hong Kong and Macau: Stanley Ho Space Center (Tai Chau Island, New Territories) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Islamic Republic of Pakistan: Sonmiani Launch Center (Las Bela, Balochistan) Tilla Launch Center (Jhelum, Punjab) Federative Republic of Brazil: Barreira do Inferno Launch Center (Parnamirim, Rio Grande do Norte) Praia do Cassino Launch Center (Rio Grande do Sul) Alcântara Spaceport (Alcântara, Maranhão) Belém Spaceport (Vigia, Para) United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland: Sutherland Spaceport (Caithness and Sutherland, Highland, Scotland) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) South Uist Space Center (South Uist, Outer Hebrides, Scotland) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Newquay Space Center (Newquay, Cornwall, England) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Ascension Launch Center (Unicorn Point, Ascension Island, South Atlantic) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Diego Garcia Launch Center (Diego Garcia, British Indian Ocean Territory) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Federal Republic of Romania: Costinești Space Center (Constanta County) Republic of Colombia: Soledad Launch Center (Caquetá Department) (jointly-operated with the United States) Commonwealth of Nations/Commonwealth Space Program: Mount Kenya Space Center (Nyeri County, Republic of Kenya) Kilimanjaro Space Center (Kilimanjaro Region, United Republic of Tanzania) Gan Launch Center (Gan, Addu Atoll, Maldives) (jointly-operated by the Commonwealth and India) Commonwealth of Australia: Woomera Space Center (Woomera, South Australia) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Darwin Space Center (Darwin, Northern Territory) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Carnarvon Space Center (Carnarvon, Western Australia) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Manus Space Center (Manus Island, Admiralty Islands, Papua New Guinea) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Weipa Launch Center (Mission River, Cape York, Queensland) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Christmas Island Space Center (South Point, Christmas Island) (jointly-operated by Australia and Japan) Spaceport Valhalla (offshore privately-run launch platform off the coast of East Timor) State of Japan: Tanegashima Space Center (Tanegashima Island, Kagoshima) Uchinoura Space Center (Kimotsuki, Kagoshima) Akita Satellite Launch Center (Akita, Tohoku) Obachi Satellite Launch Center (Rokkasho, Aomori) Okinotorishima Space Center (Okinotori Reef) (a very large launch platform built atop a coral reef, mostly so Tokyo can thumb their nose at an EEZ dispute with China and Taiwan, increasingly growing into a small city in the middle of the Pacific Ocean) Ryori Space Center (Iwate, Tohoku) Watatsumi Launch Platform (very large mobile sea-launch platform in the south Pacific Ocean, currently 100 miles off the coast of Baker Island, USA) Asada Goryu Space Center (Wuvulu Island, Bismarck Archipelago, New Guinea) New Zealand: Birdling’s Flat Launch Center (Canterbury, South Island) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Mahia Launch Center (Hawke’s Bay, North Island) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Federal Republic of Yugoslavia: Morava Spaceport (Lađevci, Republic of Šumadija) Imperial State of Iran: Qom Space Center (Qom Province) Emamshahr Space Center (Semnan Province) Semnan Spaceport (Semnan Province) Republic of Algeria: Hammaguir Space Center (Hammaguir, Abadla District) (originally built by the French, abandoned in the 60’s, brought back online by the Algerian government in the 80’s) West Indies Federation: Barbados Space Center (Kitridge Point, Barbados) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) St. Margaret Space Center (St. Margaret, Trinidad & Tobago) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Mabaruma Space Center (Mabaruma, Barima-Waini, Guyana) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) State of Israel: Albert Einstein Space Center (Hasna, Sinai Peninsula, Israel) (recently launched a Palestinian-designed satellite into orbit as a sign of goodwill) Socialist Republic of Vietnam: Phạm Tuân Launch Center (Hon Khaoi Island) (jointly operated with USSR) Malaysia: Riau Space Center (Padang, Riau Island) Ahmad Shah Space Center (Larapan Island, Sabah) Republic of India: Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala) Satish Dhawan Space Centre (Sriharikota, Andhra Pradesh) Abdul Kalam Space Centre (Bhubaneswar, Odisha) Canada: Churchill Space Center (Churchill, Manitoba) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Primrose Lake Launch Center (Cold Lake, Alberta) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Maritime Launch Center (Canso, Nova Scotia) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Cape Breton Spaceport (Cape Breton, Nova Scotia) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Grand Turk Space Center (Grand Turk Island, Turks and Caicos, Canada) (part of the Commonwealth Space Program) Dominican Republic: Las Terrenas Space Center (Las Terrenas, Samaná Province) (jointly-operated with the United States) People’s Democratic Republic of South Yemen: Qahtan Muhammad al-Shaabi Launch Center (offshore platform off the coast of Socotra) (jointly-operated with the USSR) Republic of Ecuador: Puerto Quito Launch Center (Pichincha Province) (jointly-operated with the United States) Republic of Poland: Łeba-Rąbka Spaceport (Pomeranian Voivodeship) Blizna Spaceport (Podkarpackie Voivodeship) Republic of the Philippines: Clark Freeport and Special Economic Zone (Clark Field, Metro Manilla) Lambajon Launch Center (Lambajon, Mindanao) (built with Japanese investment in the 1970’s, recently came under joint Japanese-Filipino administration) Republic of Cuba: Juventud Spaceport (Cayo San Juan, Isla de la Juventud, Cuba) (operated jointly with the USSR) Republic of Chile: Isla San Felix Launch Center (Isla San Felix) Socialist People’s Libyan Arab Jamahiriya: Libyan People’s Space City (Sabha, Fezzan) Korean Federation: Tonghae Spaceport (Musudan, North Hamyong) (originally built by the DPRK in the 80’s) Anhueng Spaceport (Hoengseong County, Gangwon Province) Naro Space Center (Goheung County, South Jeolla Province) Iraqi Republic: Babylon Space City (Al-Anbar region) (jointly operated by the Iraqi and Syrian governments; operates Tammouz rockets for manned launches and Project Babylon super-guns for satellites) United Mexican States: Sierra de Jaurez Launch Center (Sierra de Juarez, Baja California) Alcubierre Spaceport (Laguna Tamiahua, Veracruz) Puerto Bravo Launch Center (Puerto Bravo, Quintana Roo) Republic of Singapore: Changi Spaceport (Changi, Singapore) Republic of Zaire: Mbandaka Spaceport (Bamanya, Equateur Province) Republic of Indonesia: Motorai Launch Center (Motorai Island, North Maluku) Biak Launch Center (Biak Island, West Papua) Enggano Launch Center (Enggano Island, Bengkulu) Republic of Argentina: CELPA (El Chamical, La Roja Province) Felix Aguilar Launch Center (Pampa de Achala, Cordoba Province) San Martin Launch Center (Mar Chiquita, Buenos Aires Province) Marambio Launch Center (Marambio Base, Antarctica) (southern-most spaceport in the world) Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: King Khalid Spaceport (Tabuk, Tabuk Province) Al Haddar Spaceport (Al Haddar, Riyadh Province) Apartheid South Africa: Denel Overberg Launch Centre (Agulhas, Cape Province) Walvis Bay Launch Centre (Swakopmund, Southwest Africa) Aquarius Mobile Launch Platform (mobile sea-launch platform in the Atlantic Ocean, 894 miles off the coast of Liberia) Jan Smuts Launch Centre (St. Lucia, Natal)
(Not) comprehensive guide to San Diego Indian Casino craps
San Diego county has a crap (ha!) load of big Indian casinos that are only getting bigger and bigger! I've gone a little crazy visiting all that I can lately and figured that y'all might like hearing about them! Pechanga: Probably the biggest casino in the county by a big margin. It's got the flash and everything you'd expect from a Vegas casino, but to me, it's a little soulless and only going after your cash. It’s one of the older casinos here, but still nice and clean. They usually run 2 craps tables that are $10 and $15 min on the weekdays, but bump up to $15 and $25 on the weekends (I think), and they're always pretty lively until pretty late. The plus is that they also have a bubble craps machine with a $5 min but on the weekend, you have to expect to wait 30min - 1 hr to get a seat, but on the flip side, people will play literally all night, so if you're someone who doesn't want to play the Pass, you'll be happy. Their version of craps is that they have two sets of 6 cards, face up, and two different colored dice and the number on each die picks the card that’s used for the number rolled. They reshuffle the cards after the shooter sevens out. Pala: Pretty big casino that is fairly new. Everything is neat and shiny. They have two craps tables that were $10 and $25 min on the weekend that I was there. The $25 table was rocking but the $10 table was dead (go figure…). It gets pretty dead later at night though. Their version is kind of funky…they have two different colored dice and the one with higher number rolled picks one card out of two face down cards. When the card is turned over, it’ll show a pair of dice combination that determines the point rolled (e.g. the card will literally show a picture of two dice with 3 on one and 4 on the other for a roll of 7). They reshuffle the deck every roll. Pauma: Tiny casino. No craps, but they have an awesome 2-for-$20 prime rib dinner special every night :-P Harrah’s: Medium sized casino that’s fairly new as well. They usually have two tables going with $10 and $25 min every day. I believe they have two more tables that they only run on big weekends, like holidays. They have the fire bet here. People will play at the tables deep into the night on the weekend, so you’re bound to get some action if you want, but weekday late nights are more iffy, so be careful. They are the only other casino here that has a bubble craps machine and it’s $5 min as well. It gets fairly crowded during peak hours, but not as bad as Pechanga, but it also clears out fast the second it gets past midnight or so. If you don’t want to shoot, you’ll be hard pressed to play past that time. Their version is like Pechanga’s, with two decks, but the cards are face down before you roll and they reshuffle after every roll. Barona: Medium sized casino that’s probably one of the oldest right now, but it’s still quite nice and clean. Probably the most local friendly casino here, very folksy and welcoming. They have two tables. One is always $5 min and the other is usually $10 min and people will play all night here, every night. They offer sharpshooter and fire bets. It’s probably one of the consistently busy tables around here, which is great for late night people. Their version is one deck of cards, played face up, and the dice pick the cards. I like this more than the two deck version because a hardway roll on the dice is going to really be a hardway (or 2 / 12) so it’s more fun to cheer for a particular roll. Sycuan: Medium sized casino that’s just as old as Barona, but they are opening a HUGE new casino this summer that should be pretty spectacular. Right now, they have one table that was $5 min when I went, but it was completely dead. I didn’t even look carefully enough to see how they do their cards, so I don’t know. Viejas: Just opened a brand spanking new casino in the past year that looks great, naturally. It’s medium big in size. They have two tables, one that’s $5 min on weekdays and $10 min on weekends. The other is $10 weekdays, and $15 (maybe $25?) on weekends. The $5/$10 table is usually ok on the weekends until about midnight, then dies out. On the weekdays, it’s pretty quiet earlier, so be careful here too. They’re the only ones with the small-tall-all bet, which is pretty cool! Jamul: Also pretty new but medium sized. They have one craps table that seems to be $5 min all the time. I haven’t been too many times, but it feels like it’ll get pretty quiet pretty fast on the weeknights and probably be pretty dead after 1am on the weekends. Not 100% sure on that. No jackpot bets, just standard craps. The cards are like at Barona, one deck, face up, reshuffled after a seven-out. Hope this is useful to someone!
Duncan Discussion's "Masterlist of Prank Call Victims" (Part 2)
This is the original version of Duncan Discussion's "Masterlist of Prank Call Victims" which was a complete listing of victim soundboard prank calls. I can't access the current list but I'll be updating it as I go. I've also been using the masterlist to create an up to date list for existing victim soundboards. The links are supposed to display the most recent calls made on YouTube. Many victim soundboards (and the original calls) no longer exist, are privately held by a few select pranksters, or were never created. Edit: I reached the character limit while updating the list so I had to split this up into two parts
For further clarification, that city is San Diego. San Diego, as well as the rest of San Diego County are absolutely beautiful, and I highly suggest that if you haven't had the chance already that you visit the city. However, there is something dangerous lurking in the hills outside the city, and this is my encounter with that entity. It was Halloween, and I was halfway through the fall semester of my Sophomore year at university. My roommates and some girls wanted to go out and do something fun for Halloween since it was on a Thursday and none of us were gonna show up for class tomorrow. My best friend and roommate Tyler had suggested that we go into the hills around the "derona" casino and resort (Real name of casino changed for privacy reasons). As with all casinos in California it resided on an Indian Reservation, and besides me, I do not think anyone else had seen or read Pet Sematary by Stephen King so they all jumped at the idea of a spooky adventure like a bunch of crazy white kids. I was the lone voice of reason. "Let's not go on an Indian Reservation tonight guys that's some real bad Juju I don't wanna mess with" I stated. "Can you not be a superstitious little bitch just once man. C'mon its Halloween nothing bad will happen if we go in a group this large besides maybe getting caught for trespassing" said Cameron. Cameron wasn't one of my roommates but he was dating one of my good friends at the time so we hung out a lot. "Have you guys ever heard the stories about people messing around with the Indians land and getting cursed. And I am not talking about movies or books, there are real cases of it happening" I argued. "Bullshit" Tyler yells from across the room. "That's all just a big load of shit that the reservations put out so people wont go onto their land all the time". "Fine. Alright, here is the deal Tyler, if I go you not only buy dinner for me tonight, but you by all of my meals for the rest of the week" I say. I knew he would agree because even though he wanted to act tough in front of the girls, there was not a chance he would go to some random Indian land without me by his side. We had been through a lot in the year prior, his family had a lot of grief and issues and I was there to get him through it everyday. "That's kind of a fucked deal but if it gets that scared ass out and about I'll fork up some meal payments ya hobo" Tyler answers, his voice filled with hidden relief. So that was it, I didn't know it yet but this one decision would severely alter the lives of everyone who went on that trip. None of it was for the better. We got to the edge of the reservation line at around 10PM, the cool October air brushing against our skin as we heard the low rumble of the casino that was just on the other side of a small hill. The lights of the hotel and gambling floor creating an ominous glow that back-lit the beginning of our trek through the wilderness. There were seven of us total, Cameron, Tyler, and I, along with four girls that Tyler and Cameron both knew, but I did not (I was not very social, I liked history and Grand Strategy Games). The hike to the designated hill which Cameron was now calling "Shitshow ridge" was a brisk two mile hike away, the last mile leading up to the hill was very densely wooded; which if you have been to the southernmost part of California you know thats very rare. Anyways, we all had flashlights, and hydro-flasks along with some snacks and our phones. Me and Tyler brought the matching hunting knives we bought together for Christmas the year before, but no one else had any type of weapon or tool besides their own two hands. Right from the start Tyler felt like something was off. "Do you feel like someone is watching us man" he whispers to me, I could hear his voice starting to shake a bit. "Um no dude what happened to me being the little bitch of the group" I snickered back at him. In hindsight I should've taken him more seriously, but I was enjoying the nature walk, and I was even beginning to fraternize with some of the female company. And then we heard it. It's hard to describe what the sound was thinking back to that horrible moment. Imagine a cross between a snakes hiss and yelp from a coyote. It almost made me piss myself. One of the girls did piss herself. "What the fuck was that" I whispered. we had all stopped dead in our tracks now, and the whole wooded forest we were walking through was completely silent. No buzzing of flies. No leaves rustling. Just the quiet panicked breaths of the group wondering what they had just heard. Snap "WHO THE FUCK IS THERE" Cameron yells, his voice cracking from the fear. The girls were frantic now, and if I am being honest here so was I. Snap Somehow it had gotten behind us again, and we could see movement behind the trees in the distance. Tyler was fast enough to get his light over to put whatever was out there in light. I'll try to describe as best I can, because this image is burnt into my brain still, and probably will be for the rest of my life. It was about the size of a large man, with long wiry arms that almost brushed the ground. Its legs were unnaturally skinny, and it was wearing some sort of leather tunic that you would expect to see on a peasant worker in the middle ages. Yet of all that creepy shit, the worst was the face. It was as round as an onion, with two extremely small eyes, about the size of a penny and were pitch black, It had no hair except for a couple lonely strands on the side. Worst of all was that mouth. It stretched from where its ears should've been to the other ear. with rows and rows of needle like teeth. And it was fucking smiling at us. We were all frozen solid, absolute fear had taken over. I had to will my head to look to the side to check on Tyler when it fucking spoke. "Tyler I can smell your fear. It will be mine" I've never heard Tyler cry, even through all of the drama with his family he was a brick wall of emotion. I can't blame him for crying, this devil onion man said his fucking name. But he didn't get the chance to cry because this Thing started to run at him with such speed it didn't seem possible for anything real to move that quick. He barely had time to look at me before the monster was on top of him. I saw the live leave his eyes as it bit the head off of his body. It tore off both of his arms, and tore his chest open. There was so much blood, but that sight finally snapped me out of my fearful trance and allowed me to make the quickest decision i had ever made. Run. "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE" I screamed as I ran by the others, who seemed to snap out of their fear paralysis as well. But the monster wasn't done yet. Behind me I heard a girl scream, and I turned around and saw her arms and legs being ripped off of her body as she was still alive. This monster wasn't even eating the people it was killing, It just wanted to tear all of our limbs off and watch us writhe and scream in agony until we died of shock. The group was now down to five people, and I had no doubt that number was going to keep shrinking very quickly. We had run maybe a quarter mile when we realized that the monster was ni longer chasing us. We slowed our pace to trot so that we could regain some of our breathe and energy in case it came back. We were out of the wooded area now, and one of the girls had gotten a hold of the police to tell them that two people had been murdered, and that she was going to stay on the phone so they could track our location in real time if shit hit the fan again. Well shit hit the fan, and blew into a shitstorm. We were about 3/4 of a mile away from the reservation line and our cars, when the monster seemed to appear out of thin air and attack the girl with the phone. It must have been running from the side, because when it made contact with the girl everything but her forearm and hand holding the phone turned into a paste of blood and bone. "Jesus Christ!" Me and Cameron yell, as I run to pick up the phone. "Hurry man we gotta get the fu-" was all that he managed to say before the monster tore him in half, his face permanently contorted into the final sensation of utter pain and agony before graceful death. That fucking monster just continued to rip him apart like some kind of cheap toy. "RUN ALYSSA, WE NEED TO FUCKING MOVE" I yelled to the last person left. We broke off into a full sprint down the path we had created on the way to shithole ridge. If we hadn't flattened that grass out on the way there I am certain the monster would have reached me. Instead it chose Alyssa as its next victim. There was no scream, no whimper, no last breathe. I just felt her blood cover my face and arm as her torso was ripped to shreds and her intestines and organs were strewn about around the hillside. I could feel the adrenaline pushing my already overtaxed muscles into overdrive, I was the only target left for this monster. I could see the car in the distance, and I pushed my legs as hard as I could, and it felt like an eternity until I reached the car. But I don't have the keys. Tyler had them. I felt all hope leave my body as I succumbed to my fate. I turned around to face the end, utterly spent, and ready to just get it over with. But when I turned around it was just standing there, at the edge of the parking lot. Right at the line that separates Indian land from California. It let out one last call into the air, and then ran back along the trail. The police arrived shortly after, they arrested me initially, because I was covered with blood and was not the girl who had dialed and talked to the 911 operator. They took my statement and drove me to a hospital, where I was checked over, cleaned up and released. My parents picked me up from school and I transferred up to Oregon to complete my university coursework. I have never spoken of that night to anyone but the police and my parents, the memories are too vivid and too real still to talk openly. But typing the whole ordeal down helps me re live the moments at my own pace, which can help me reflect and get past this tragedy. It is okay to go out and have some fun when you're young, in fact it's one of the most important parts of the maturation process. However, if people want to trespass onto Indian reservations, especially on a night like Halloween, just please say no. Watching your best friend and five others get ripped apart, and torn to shreds is not something you can quickly forget about, If you even get the chance to remember the event at all.
En este tema quiero recopilar todas las localizaciones que hemos ido averiguando y así si alguien tiene la suerte de hacer un viaje a Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, Londres, Paris... le sea mas sencillo encontrar esos lugares donde MJ dejo su huella. Eso si, a Los Angeles le he dejado un espacio por separado debido a la gran cantidad de localizaciones que hay... LOS ANGELES TOUR VIDEOCLIPS -Casa de Thriller: 1345 Carrol V. Echo Park -Calle de Thriller: 3701 E. Union Pacific Av. & Los Palos St. -Palace Theatre (Cine de Thriller): 615 S. Broadway -Rialto Theatre (Interior del Cine de Thriller): 1023 S. Fair Oaks Av., S. Pasadena -Set de grabacion del Cementerio ye interior de la Casa de Thriller: 4300 Maywood Av, Vernon (Cerca de Union Pacific) -Debbie Reynolds Dance Studio (Estudio de Baile donde se realizaron los ensayos de las coreografias de Thriller): 6514 Lankershim Boulevard -Green Apple Market (Billares de Beat It): 300 E. 5th St. -Cafeteria de Beat It: 416 East 5th Street (Actualmente demolido) -Almacenes de Beat It: 5th St. Alameda, Los Angeles -Pantage Theatre (Teatro de You Are Not Alone y Hollywood Tonight): 6233 Hollywood Blvd. -Griffith Park (Bosque de Thriller): 2800 Observatory Rd. (entre la arboleda) -Decorados de Smooth Criminal y Moonwalker: Universal Studios, 100 Universal City Plaza -Union Hotel (Saloon de Say,Say,Say): 362 Bell St., Los Alamos -Antiques Depot (Lugar del Show de variedades de Say,Say,Say): 515 Bell St., Los Alamos -The Chimney Sweep Inn (Actualmente " The Wine Valley Inn". Hotel donde se hospedaba MJ durante las grabaciones del video Say,Say,Say): 1564 Copenhagen Way, Solvang -Vasquez Rocks Natural Park (Escena de Black or White de Indios y Vaqueros): 10700 Escondido Canyon Road, Santa Clarita, CA -Shilpark Mann Brothers (Lugar donde se realizaban las audiciones para TWYMMF. En este lugar MJ eligio a Tatiana para el video): 758 N La Brea, Hollywood -Harbor Star Stage "Terminal Island" (Hangar donde fueron filmados los videoclips de Dirty Diana y The Way You Make Me Feel. Lamentablemente el hangar fue demolido en 1990): Term Island Cg Base, San Pedro, Long Beach CA 90731 (Direccion mas aproximada: US Coast Guard, 1001 S Seaside Ave # 20, San Pedro, CA) -Salton Sea Recreation Area State Park (Lugar de filmacion del videoclip "In The Closet": Salton Sea State Recreation Area, 100-225 State Park Road, North Shore, CA (Cerca de Palm Spring) -Calle por la que pasea MJ en "Stranger In Moscow": 4th St. con N. Main & Spring -Set de grabación de Billie Jean: Ren-Mar Studios, Studio 7, 846 N. Cahuenga, Hollywood -Set de grabación de Who Is It: Ren-Mar Studios, Studio 8, 846 N. Cahuenga, Hollywood -Escenas de Moonwalker donde juegan en el prado y sobre el puente: Disney Golden Oak Ranch, 19802 Placerita Canyon RoadNewhall, Santa Clarita, CA 91321 -Jim Henson Studios (Estudio de We Are The World y Liberian Girl): 1416 N. La Brea Av. -Carretera donde MJ baila con india en Black or White entre coches: 11779 Sheldon Street, Sun Valley -Vídeo "Why" de 3T y MJ: Ennis House en Los Feliz, Los Ángeles, California, al sur de Griffith Park RESIDENCIAS -Neverland Ranch (Rancho de MJ): 5200 Figueroa Mountain Rd., Los Olivos -Casa de Encino (Casa de los padres de MJ donde vivio durante la epoca Thriller): 4641 Hayvenfiurst Av., Encino -Primera Casa de "The Jacksons": 1601 N. Queens Rd. / 1600 N. Queens Rd. & 8600 W. Hollywood Blvd. -The Lindbrook (Primer apartamento en el que vivio MJ en 1981 antes de mudarse a la mansion de Encino): 5420 Lindley Avenue, Encino (Unit#9) -Holmby Hills (Ultima casa de Michael): 100 N. Carolwood Dr., Bel-Air -Casa de Diana Ross (Casa en la que vivó durante un tiempo MJ en su infancia): 701 N Maple Dr, Beverly Hills, CA -The Hideout (El "Escondite" o "Piso Franco" de MJ): 2247 Century City -The Lindbrook (Sesion de fotos de 1981 de Chris Walter en el apartamento de Encino comprado por MJ, lugar donde vivia con Janet mientras hacia reformas en la casa de Hayvenhurst): The Lindbrook, 5420 Lindley Ave, Encino -Casa de la familia Jackson entre mayo de 1970 y mayo de 1971: 2430 Bowmont Drive, Beverly Hills ESTUDIOS DE GRABACIÓN & DISCOGRAFIA -Westlake Recording Studios (Estudio de Grabacion de Off The Wall, Thriller, Bad, Dangerous y HIStory): 7265 Santa Monica Boulevard, West Hollywood -Ocean Way Recording Studios (Estudio de Grabacion de Thriller, Dangerous y HIStory): 6050 Sunset Blvd. -Larrabee Sound Studios (Estudio de Grabacion de Dangerous y HIStory):4162 Lankershim Blvd., North Hollywood -Record Plant Studios (Estudio de Grabacion de Invincible y Dangerous): 1032 North Sycamore Av. -Capitol Studios & Mastering (Estudio de Grabacion de Invincible): 1750 North Vine St., Hollywood -Flyte Tyme Records (Estudio de Grabacion de Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis utilizados para grabaciones de HIStory): 8750 Wilshire Blvd. -Jim Henson Studios (Estudio de We Are The World): 1416 N. La Brea Av. -MJJ Productions, Inc (Discografica de MJ): 10960 Wilshire Blvd, Westwood -"Marvin's Room" Marvin Gaye Recording Studio (Estudio de grabacion de las demos de Invincible): 6553 W Sunset Blvd. -Allen Zentz Recording Studios (Estudios de grabacion de los Vocals de Off The Wall y Remasterizacion de Thriller, Billie Jean y Beat It): 1020 N Sycamore Ave, Hollywood -Lion Share Recording Studio "Kenny Roger's Studio" (Lugar de grabacion de Eaten Alive, Goin Back To Alabama y arregos de We Are The World): 8255 Beverly Blvd -Cherokee Studios (Lugar de grabacion de Off The Wall. Actualmente demolido y realizada una nueva construccion): 751 N Fairfax Ave -The Wall, La Pared de la portada de "Off The Wall": Trasera de 7771 Beverly Blvd (A dos manzanas de donde eran los Cherokee Studios) -Calle de la Portada Moving Violation: 101 N. Sycamore Av. -Motown HitsVille West (Estudios de Grabacion de los Jackson 5): 7317 Romaine St., West Hollywood -MCA Records "Studio 55" (Estudio en el que MJ grabó con Joe King Carrasco y donde The Jacksons preparaban el album LIVE): 5555 Melrose Av, Hollywood (frente a a Paramount Pictures) -Todd A.O. Scoring Stage (Utilizado por MJ en HIStory): CBS Radford Studios, Studio City, Hollywood ESTADIOS & AUDITORIOS -Staples Center (This Is It y MJ Memorial): 1111 S. Figueroa St. -Dodger Stadium (Victory Tour): 1000 Elysian Park Av. -Los Angeles Memorial Sport Arena (Bar Tour): 3939 S. Figueroa St. -Pasadena Civic Auditorium (Motown 25th "Nacimiento del MoonWalk", actuacion de Dangerous para el 50th Aniversario American Bandstand): 300 E. Green St., Pasadena -The LA Forum (This Is It Rehearsals, Triumph Tour, J5 Tour): 3900 W. Manchester Blvd, Inglewood -Shrine Auditorium (26th Grammy Awards 1984: MJ gana 8 Premios Grammy, Accidente del Spot de Pepsi, Interpretacion de "You Were There" en el Tributo a Sammy Davis Jr, Entrega del Grammy por "We Are The World", Aparicion con Madonna en los Oscars 1991): 665 West Jefferson Boulevard, Los Angeles -Rose Bowl Stadium (Estadio donde tuvo lugar la mitica actuacion de MJ en la NFL SuperBowl XXVII): 1001 Rose Bowl Drive, Pasadena -Avalon Hollywood Palace (Lugar de la primera actuacion en directo en TV de los J5 "Diana Ross Presents..."): 1735 Vine St, Los Angeles -The Palladium (Conferencia de prensa de "LA Gear": 6215 Sunset Blvd. -Orpheum Theater ("A Celebration Of Love" Fiesta del 45 cumpleaños de MJ): 842 S. Broadway, Los Angeles -Crest Theatre (Cine en el que fue presentada la Premier del video "Thriller"): 1262 Westwood Boulevard TIENDAS, COMERCIOS & RESTAURANTES -Golden Apple Comics (Tienda de Comics Favorita de Michael): 7018 Melrose Av. -Moist Wear Men (Tienda de moda frecuentada por Michael): 7518 Melrose Av. -The Collectors Paradise Gallery (actualmente una tienda de muebles) donde MJ compro el libro "The Art Of Walt Disney" y banco al que se subio para ver una mejor perspectiva de cómo quedaria colocada la gente en el evento "Hands Across America" que pasaria por esa calle: 12260-12262 Ventura Blvd -Villa Sorriso Ristorante (Lugar donde la familia Jackson celebro el “Celebration of Life” tras el funeral de MJ): 168 West Colorado Boulevard, Old Town Pasadena -Madeo Restaurant (Restaurante Italiano frecuentado por Michael y la familia Jackson): 8897 Beverly Boulevard, Los Angeles -Akasha Restaurant (Restaurante de la que fuera Chef personal en los Tours de MJ durante años): 9543 Culver Boulevard, Culver City -TiGeorges' Chicken (Restaurante en el que Prince Michael participo como voluntario en una obra de caridad para Perú): 307 Glendale Boulevard, Los Angeles -Alter Ego (Tienda de Cosmetica visitada por MJ): 427 N Bedford Drive, Beverly Hills -Lladró (Tienda de Porcelana visitada por MJ): 408 N. Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills -Book Soup (Libreria frecuentada por MJ): 8818 Sunset Blvd., West Hollywood -Chasen's Restaurant "1980 AMA After Party" (Michael acudio a esta fiesta y se fotografio en su fachada. Actualmente es una tienda de ultramrinos): 9039 Beverly Boulevard, Beverly Hills -Melrose Avenue (Calle preferida de MJ para hacer sus compras en los Angeles situada entre Beverly Hills y West Hollywood) -The Record Collector (Tienda de discos frecuentada por MJ): 7809 Melrose Ave -Ed Hardy Store (Boutique frecuentada por MJ y sus hijos): 7817 Melrose Ave -Unica Melrose (Tienda de Moda frecuentada por MJ): 7524 Melrose Ave -Off The Wall Antiques (Tienda de Antiguedades frecuentada por MJ): 7325 Melrose Ave -Pink's Hot Dogs (Puesto de perritos calientes del descanso de la famosa sesion de fotos de los '70): 709 N La Brea Ave -Golden Temple of Conscious Cookery (Actualemente "Rama Restaurant". Restaurante frecuentado por MJ en los '80): W 3rd St (Cerca de Fairfax) -Inn Of The Seventh Ray Restaurant (Restaurante de Malibu donde MJ ceno con Brooke Shields y frecuentado por la familia Jackson): 128 Old Topanga Rd, Topanga -Sherman Oaks Bookstore (Libreria frecuentada por MJ): 13351 Ventura Blvd., Sherman Oaks -Casa de Pets (Tienda de animales donde MJ compraba todo para us mascotas): 13323 Ventura Blvd., Sherman Oaks -Mo-C Antiques (Tienda de antigüedades frecuentada por MJ. La ultima vez fue en Abril de 2009): 239 South Robertson Boulevard, Beverly Hills -DioDolce & Gabbana (Boutiques de moda visitadas por MJ acompañado de Christian Audigier en 2009): 315 N. Rodeo Drive, Beverly Hills -Christofle Silver (Joyeria de articulos de plata visitada por MJ en 2009. Unas manzanas mas atras se encuentra la oficina del Dr. Klein): 9515 Brighton Way, Beverly Hills -Le Dome Restaurant (Resturante cenaba a menudo MJ en los '80 con Liz Taylor, Diana Ross, Lionel Richie... Actualmente el restaurante se ha convertido en un asador): 8720 W. Sunset Blvd. -Chakra's Indian Cuisine (Lugar donde cenaron juntos y se reunieron por ultima vez MJ y la familia Jackson en Mayo de 2009): 151 S. Doheny, Beverly Hills -Towers Records (Antigua tienda de discos donde MJ se hizo algunas fotos para la campaña de Suzuki): 8801 W Sunset Blvd -Roscoe's Chicken & Waffles (Restaurante visitado por MJ durante los ensayos del video "Remember The Time". El estudio donde ensayaba esta cerca del restaurante: (A espera de confirmacion) HOTELES -The Beverly Hills Hotel (Hotel frecuentado por MJ y sus hijos asi como por la familia Jackson): 9641 Sunset Boulevard, Beverly Hills -L'Ermitage Beverly Hills Hotel (Hotel utilizado por MJ como Post-Operatorio tras sus intervenciones quirurjicas): 9291 Burton Way, Beverly Hills -Hotel Bel-Air (Hotel frecuentado por MJ. Estuvo durante un tiempo viviendo en él en 2008. Meses antes del 25J asistio a un concierto de piano de Antonio Castillo de la Gala en el Salon del hotel "Champagne Bar"): 701 Stone Canyon Road, Los Angeles -The Beverly Hilton Hotel "Jesse Jackson's 66th Birthday Bash" (Fiesta de Cumpleaños del Reverendo Jesse Jackson a la cual MJ asisitio): 9876 Wilshire Boulevard, Beverly Hills MEMORABILIA -Estrella de Michael en Walk Of Fame: 6927 Hollywood Blvd. -Estrella de The Jacksons en Walk of Fame: 1500 N. Vine St. -Grammy Museum: 800 W. Olympic Blvd., Ste. A245 -Disneyland Park Anaheim (Ubicacion del especial Disneyland 25th Anniversary): 1313 South Disneyland Drive, Anaheim -Museo Madame Tussauds Hollywood (Figura de MJ): 6933 Hollywood Blvd. -Wax Museum (Figura de MJ): 6767 Hollywood Blvd. -Guinness World Records Museum (Figura de MJ y Articulos de Memorabilia): 6764 Hollywood Blvd. -Mural por el pintor Levi Ponce: 4900 Lankershim Blvd, North Hollywood MEMORIALES -Forest Lawn Memorial Park (Cementerio donde descansa Michael): Holly Terrace, 1712 South Glendale Avenue, Glendale VARIOS -Griffith Observatory (Lugar de la imagen descartada que iva a ser la portada de Off The Wall): 2800 Observatory Rd. (En la parte alta del edificio) -Gardner St. Elementary School (MJ Auditorium y Escuela de MJ de 6º Grado): 7450 Hawthorn Av. -Montclair College Prep (Instituto donde estudiaron Michael, Marlon y La Toya): 8071 Sepulveda Blvd, Van Nuys -Ronald Regan UCLA Medical Center (Hospital donde transladaron a MJ el dia de su muerte): 757 Westwood Plaza -Sesion de Fotos de la Campaña Suzuki: 6656 W. Sunset Blvd. -Motown Billboard (Esquina Billboard): 8782 W Sunset Blvd, West Hollywood (Sunset Blvd & Holloway Dr.) -Leo Carrillo Beach (Sesion de fotos de The Jacksons con los deportivos): 35000 W. Pacific Coast Hwy., Malibu -Corte de Santa Maria (Lugar del Juicio de MJ): 312-C E. Cook St., Santa Maria -USA for AFRICA (Asociacion Benefica en la que participo MJ con We Are The World): 5670 Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles -Ziffren Et Al: Branca John G (Despacho del abogado de MJ, John Branca): 1801 Century Park W # 7, Los Angeles -The Buckley School (Escuela en la que estudian Prince Michael y Paris): 3900 Stansbury Avenue, Sherman Oaks -Knotts Berry Farm (Parque de Atracciones visitado por MJ en los '80. Lugar de la famosa foto con Snoopy): 8039 Beach Boulevard, Buena Park -Hollywood Park Horse Track (MJ y Elizabeth Taylor asisten a la inauguracion de la nueva temporada de carreras de caballos en 1986): 1050 South Prairie Av, Inglewood -Los Angeles County Museum of Art (LACMA) (Sesion de fotos de los J5 baja la escultura roja): 5905 Wilshire Blvd -Empire West Condo Building (Sesion de fotos de los J5. La clasica imagen de los 5 en el cesped con el edificio al fondo): 1100 Alta Loma, West Hollywood. -Noe Restaurant (Fiesta del 46th cumpleaños de MJ con la familia Jackson): 251 S. Olive Ave -Womphoppers Restaurant (Actualmente "Saddle Ranch Universal". Afterparty celebrada en 1983 tras un concierto de Liza Minelli. MJ estuvo presente junto a Quincy Jones y Liza Minelli entre otros...): Universal Citywalk, 1000 Universal Hollywood Dr., Universal City -The L.A. ZOO (Visitado por MJ y Emmanuel Lewis en 1984 una semana despues del accidente de Pepsi): LA ZOO 5333 Zoo Drive, Los Angeles -Campaña Suzuki en Fisherman Village (MJ de blanco junto a la Suzuki en el muelle de FV): Fisherman's Village, 13755 Fiji Way, Marina del Rey -The Park Beverly Hills (Sesion de fotos de Jim Britt en 1973 donde MJ posa tras una fuente en el parque. Algunas de estas fotos aparecen en el MJ Opus): The Park Beverly Hills, Santa Monica Blvd. (cerca de Carmelita) -Will Rogers Memorial Park (Otro de los parques de la sesion de fotos de Jim Britt en 1973 donde MJ posa. Algunas de estas fotos aparecen en el MJ Opus): 9650 Sunset Blvd (Entre Canon y Beverly). *Gracias a Moonwalking Around Los Angeles por muchas de las direcciones facilitadas * EEUU TOUR VIDEOCLIPS -Estacion de Metro del video BAD: Hoyt-Schermerhorn Station (Linea G con AC), Brooklyn, NYC -The Masters School (Universidad de MJ en el video BAD): 49 Clinton Avenue, Dobbs Ferry, NY 10522 -New York State Pavillion (Exteriores de la pelicula "The Wiz" Munchkinland): Flushing Meadows Corona Park, 11101 Corona Ave, Corona, NY RESIDENCIAS -Hogar Natal de la familia Jackson: 2300 Jackson St. & 23rd St., Gary, Indiana -Lugar de naciemiento de Michael Jackson: St. Mary's Mercy Hospital: 555 Polk St. Gary, Indiana -Apartamento de Bobby Taylor. Lugar donde durmieron los J5 en el suelo antes de su audición con Motown: 1300 E Lafayette St Detroit, MI 48207 ESTUDIOS DE GRABACIÓN & DISCOGRAFÍA -SteelTown Records (Estudio de las primeras grabaciones de los J5): 4544 North Lincoln Avenue, Chicago, IL -Kaufman Astoria Studios (Estudio de Grabacion de la pelicula "The Wiz"): 34-12 36th Street, Astoria, NY 11106 -Sony Music Studios (Grabaciones para sesiones de HIStory e Invincible): 460 W. 54th St., at 10th Avenue, Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, NY -Future Records Studios (Antiguos Estudios de Grabacion de Teddy Riley donde se grabaron vocals y demos para Dangerous, Invincible y el tema "Shout)": 4338 Virginia Beach Blvd, Virginia Beach, Virginia -The Hit Factory Studios (Antiguos Estudios en los que se grabaron sesiones para HIStory e Invincible): 421 West 54th Street, New York -The Hit Factory Criteria Studios (Estudios utilizados para completar el album "Invincible"): 1755 NE 149th St. Miami, Florida ESTADIOS & AUDITORIOS -Teatro Apollo (Lugar de la Consagracion de "The Jackson 5"): 253 West 125th Street, Harlem, NYC -The Madison Square Garden (Lugar de actuaciones como el 30th Anniversary 2001 y el Bad Tour '88): 2 Pennsylvania Plaza New York, NY -Radio City Music Hall (MTV VMA donde se besaron MJ y Lisa Marie): 1260 Avenue of the Americas, New York -Carnegie Hall (Conferencia de "Heal The Kids"): 881 7th Ave, New York -RFK "Robert F. Kennedy" Memorial Stadium (Gala United We Stand. MJ junto con varios cantantes interpreto "What More Can I Give"): D.C. Armony, Independence Ave and 22nd St in Southeast, Washington D.C TIENDAS, COMERCIOS & RESTAURANTES -Virgin MegaStore (Actualmente Disney Store)(Firma de Discos de Invincible): 52 East 14th Street, New York -Modern Times Beer: Mural MJ&Bubbles de Post-It de 6.5 metros. HOTELES -The Mirage Hotel & Casino (Hotel frecuentado por MJ, lugar donde se vendia el CD de Siegfried & Roy con el tema "Mind Is The Magic" y ubicacion del Michael Jackson: The Immortal Cirque Do Soleil): 3400 S. Las Vegas Blvd. -MGM Grand Hotel and Casino (Hotel en el que se reencontraron Michael y Lisa Marie meses antes de comenzar su relacion sentimental): 3799 Las Vegas Blvd S, Las Vegas -Hotel Royal Plaza in the Walt Disney World Resort (Uno de los hoteles preferidos de MJ en Walt Disney World): 1905 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Orlando, FL -Hotel Hilton in the Walt Disney World Resort (Otro de los hoteles preferidos de MJ en Walt Disney World): 1751 Hotel Plaza Boulevard, Orlando, FL MEMORABILIA -Madame Tussauds Las Vegas (Figura de Cera de MJ): 3377 Las Vegas Blvd. South Suite 2001 -Motown Historical Museum "HitsVille U.S.A." (Antigua y clasica Sede de Motown Records): 2648 W Grand Blvd, Detroit, Michigan -Addenbrooke Park (Replica de la escultura de Neverland "Snapshot"): 600 S. Kipling Pkwy, Lakewood, Colorado -Replica de la escultura de Guangzhou: Overland Park Arboretum Botanical Garden 8909 W 179th St, Overland Park, Kansas -Banco en memoria de MJ en el Brooklyn Botanical Gardens: 150 Eastern Parkway 990 Washington Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11225 -EMP Museum: Hay una zona dedicada a John Landis con una pantalla en la que se habla de su trabajo y, como no, aparecen imágenes del making Thriller. Junto a ella, un traje de zombie del vídeo donado por Mick y Cinthia Garris. 325 5th Ave N, Seattle, Washington 98109, USA. -Banco en memoria de MJ en el Brooklyn Botanical Gardens : 150 Eastern Parkway, 990 Washington Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11225 -Modern Times Beer: La cervecería Modern Times en tiene un mosaico de 6.5 metros de altura creado con más de 10.000 notas de Post-It.: 3725 Greenwood St., San Diego, CALIFORNIA 92110 VARIOS -La Casa Blanca (MJ visitó a los presidentes de EEUU en varias ocasiones): 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW Washington MEXICO HOTELES -Hotel Presidente InterContinental (Hotel donde se hospedo durante el Dangerous Tour): Avenida Campos Eliseos 218, Polanco, Mexico ESTADIOS & AUDITORIOS -Estadio Azteca (Lugar de Dangerous Tour): Calzada de Tlalpan, 3465, Col. Santa Ursula Coapa, Delegación Tlalpan, Mexico VARIOS -Hard Rock Cafe Mexico City (Visita de MJ): Campos Eliseos #290, Col. Polanco 11560 Mexico D.F., Mexico CANADÁ TOUR -New Westminster Museum (Anvil Centre): Allí tienen las gafas que MJ regaló a uno de los policías que le acompañaron en la visita al City Hall en 1984, la chaqueta del policía y un ejemplar de Moonwalk con la foto de MJ y los agentes. 777 Columbia Street, New Westminster, BC V3M 1B6, Canadá. -Escalinata de la imagen de MJ con el Cuerpo de Policía de Vancouver: New Westminster City Hall 511 Royal Avenue, New Westminster, BC V3L 1H9, Canadá. -Hard Rock Vancouver: Tienen uno de los spikey tops de Scream y varias vitrinas alrededor llenas de memorabilia de MJ. 2080 United Blvd, Coquitlam, BC V3K 6W3, Canadá. EUROPA TOUR VIDEOCLIPS -Castillo de Buda (History Teaser, parte del desfile ante el palacio): 1014 Budapest, Úri utca 9, Budapest, Hungary -Plaza de los Héroes (History Teaser, escena de la estatua): 1146 Budapest, Hősök Tere, Hungría -Disneyland Resort Paris (Michael estuvo de visita algunas veces en el parque): 77777 Marne-la-Vallée, Paris ESTADIOS & AUDITORIOS -Wembley Stadium (Lugar del mitico concierto del Bad Tour '88. El estadio antiguo fue demolido y eregido el nuevo estadio en el mismo lugar): Wembley, London, HA9 0WS, Reino Unido -Stadionul National (Lugar del mitico concierto del Dangerous World Tour '92): National Arena 35-37, Bucharest, Rumanía -Olympic Stadium (Lugar del mitico concierto del HIStory World Tour '97): Spiridon-Louis-Ring 21, 80809 München, Alemania -The O2 Arena (Conferencia de prensa de This Is It y lugar elegido para la realizacion de los conciertos): Peninsula Square, City of London, London SE10 0DX, Reino Unido HOTELES -Hotel "Bayerischer Hof" (MJ se alojó en muchas ocasiones): Promenadeplatz 2-6, Altstadt-Lehel, 80333 Múnich -The Grand at Oudezijds Voorbugwal (Hotel en el que se alojaba Michael en Amsterdam durante la gira HIStory 1996): Oudezijds Voorburgwal 197, 1012 Ex Amsterdam, Nehterlands -Hotel Jardin Botanico (Lugar en el que se alojaba MJ durante el Dangerous WT en Tenerife): Avda. Richard J. Yeoward, nº 1,Puerto de la Cruz, Tenerife, España -Hotel The Westin Palace (Hotel Preferido de MJ para alojarse en Madrid): Plaza de las Cortes, 7, Madrid, España -Hotel Le Meridien (Hotel Preferido de MJ para alojarse en Barcelona): Ramblas, 111, Barcelona, España -The Hempel Hotel (Hotel donde se alojo MJ en 2006): 31 Craven Hill Gardens W2 3, Londres -Hotel The Lanesborough (Hotel en el que, supuestamente, MJ se desperto de madrugada y deambuló sonambulo por los pasillos): Hyde Park Corner 0, Myfair, Londres -Hotel Adlon Kempinski Berlin (Hotel donde MJ asomó a Blanket por la ventana y causo la famosa polemica): Unter den Linden 77 10117, Berlín, Alemania -Hard Rock Hotel (Estatua de en honor de MJ): PenangBatu Ferringhi Beach, 11100 Penang, Malaysia MEMORABILIA -Madame Tussauds London (Figura de cera de MJ): Marylebone Road, London, NW1 5LR -Museo Astrup Fearnley (Figura de Ceramica de MJ & Bubbles): Dronningens Gate 4, 0152 Oslo, Noruega -Estatua de HIStory: Eindhovenseweg Zuid 595681 Best, Países Bajos MEMORIALES -Estadio de Futbol Fulham (Estatua en honor de MJ por Mohamed Al Fayed): Craven Cottage, Stevenage Rd, Hammersmith, London SW6 6HH, Reino Unido -Monumento frente al Hotel "Bayerischer Hof" (Decorado por fans de MJ como memorial desde 2009): Estatua de Orlando di Lasso Promenadeplatz, 80333 Munich, Alemania -Estatua Tributo a MJ: Vainer St.(delante del Greenwich Shopping Mall), Yekaterinburg, Rusia VARIOS -Monumento Vittorio Emanuele II (Visita de MJ a Roma 1988): Piazza Venezia, 3, 00187 Roma, Italia -Sony BMG London "Sony Sulks"(Michael realiza su protesta contra Sony Music subido a un Bus Inglés): 9 Derry St, London W8 5HY, Reino Unido -Los Musicos de Bremen (MJ se fotografia junto a esta figura en su paso por Alemania en la gira HIStory): Am Markt, 28195 Bremen, Alemania -Parque de Atracciones de Liseberg (Visita de MJ en la epoca BAD. Hay una estrella en su honor y las hullas de sus manos): Örgrytevägen, 402 22 Göteborg, Suecia ASIA TOUR ESTADIOS & AUDITORIOS -Yokohama Stadium (Lugar del mitico concierto del Bar Tour '87): 3302-5 Kozukue, Kohoku-ku, Yokohama City, Japon TIENDAS, COMERCIOS & RESTAURANTES -Heaven 'n Eggs (Restaurante en el que se ha hecho un menú en honor a MJ): Glorietta 4. Unit 104 G/F, Glorietta 4, Ayala Center. Makati City, Filipinas -Cafe & Bar MJM (Bar con tematica dedicada a MJ): 1-57-1, Chofu, Tokio MEMORIALES -Heaven 'n Eggs (Restaurante en el que se ha hecho un menú en honor a MJ): Glorietta 4. Unit 104 G/F, Glorietta 4, Ayala Center. Makati City, Filipinas -Escultura en Honor a MJ: 545号 Xiatang West Road, Baiyunqu, Guangzhou, Guangdong, China VARIOS -Wild Wadi Water Park (Parque Acuatico alquilado por MJ): Bahrain City Centre, Manama Bahrain, Dubai -Studio Coast (Evento Premium VIP Party 2007. Michael llego vestido con el famoso traje negro con leoncitos amarillos): 2-2-10 Shinkiba, Koutou-Ku, Tokio, Japon SUDAMERICA TOUR VIDEOCLIPS -Fabelas Morro Santa Marta (Lugar donde se rodó "They Don't Care About Us"): Rua Marechal Franciso de Moura, 234, Botafogo, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, 22260-140, Brasil VARIOS -Oficialia del Estado Civil de la Segunda Circunscripción de La Vega (Lugar donde se casaron de manera civil MJ y Lisa Marie): C/Manuel U. Gómez, no. 86, Edif. Juzgado de Paz, La Vega -Park Hyatt Hotel (ahora llamado "Four Seasons") Mansion "Alzaga Unzue" (anexa al hotel, donde MJ se hospedo durante su estadia en Argentina en el 93): Avenida Alvear, 1661 Buenos Aires, Argentina MEMORIALES -Estatua y Mosaico de MJ (En la misma zona donde fue rodado TDCAU): Espacio Michael Jackson, Morro Dona Marta, Rio de Janeiro OCEANIA TOUR MEMORIALES -Muro Tributo de los Candados de Amor (Tributo a MJ): Parque de la bahía de Sydney, Sydney, Australia Muchas gracias a la comunidad de MJHIDEOUT por los aportes prestados a esta genial guía. Si alguien tiene más lugares interesantes sobre los pasos de MJ no dude en compartirlos!
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